7mm mag to a 6.5prc?

Has anyone dropped down from a 7 or 30 cal magnum to a 6.5prc and is happy. Or has anyone been disappointed and gone bigger again. Just curious.

Yeah, I have. I'm pretty happy. Have set up 4, tikka and Bergara. Limited factory ammo options but the Hornady match stuff seems to like most guns. Really nice to shoot compared to rem mag and ballistically similar at realistic ranges. Kills well. I would say it's less forgiving than a 30 Cal for poor shot placement. But then its more accurate, generally. I'm in Manawatu if you wanted to shoot one. Also, it will lose speed if you cut it too much and turn into a creedmoor, not a bad thing but will effect your max range etc. I have a 24 inch, 22 inch, 21 inch and 20 inch. I would go 22 for an all rounder.

Go 6mm ya pussy :P

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Yeah, I have. I'm pretty happy. Have set up 4, tikka and Bergara. Limited factory ammo options but the Hornady match stuff seems to like most guns. Really nice to shoot compared to rem mag and ballistically similar at realistic ranges. Kills well. I would say it's less forgiving than a 30 Cal for poor shot placement. But then its more accurate, generally. I'm in Manawatu if you wanted to shoot one. Also, it will lose speed if you cut it too much and turn into a creedmoor, not a bad thing but will effect your max range etc. I have a 24 inch, 22 inch, 21 inch and 20 inch. I would go 22 for an all rounder.

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Cheers for the offer, me mate @199p has a lender if needed. It’s a close call between a saum and 6.5prc. 20inch is a handy length unfortunately, four prcs is madness. The 147 seems to have a good reputation like the 162.

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Go 6mm ya pussy :P

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I’ve got 1 6mm and it heavy. No 6um in my future.

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Originally Posted by Tim Dicko

I’ve got 1 6mm and it heavy. No 6um in my future.

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Thats why you need a one for the mountains..... cant take that truck axle up there

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In my experience the 6.5 has;
less recoil
Is inherently accurate. To the point that I found any powder/ pill combo just flat out shot
Great bc to weight

The only downside in my limited experience was the animals stood there for way long after being shot. Like up to 30 seconds where as a 7mm would flatten them. I have heard this from others aswell. Just a trade off I guess

Why not go 7-6.5PRC and have the best of both

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In my experience the 6.5 has;
less recoil
Is inherently accurate. To the point that I found any powder/ pill combo just flat out shot
Great bc to weight

The only downside in my limited experience was the animals stood there for way long after being shot. Like up to 30 seconds where as a 7mm would flatten them. I have heard this from others aswell. Just a trade off I guess

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I think the concern is hunting public land north island shooting them on the slip. Anchoring makes them easy to find, the $mm does that. The 6.5 may not. Mind you only using the amax.

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I think the concern is hunting public land north island shooting them on the slip. Anchoring makes them easy to find, the $mm does that. The 6.5 may not. Mind you only using the amax.

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162eldm/a max certainly does a great job

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162eldm/a max certainly does a great job

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Yeah hard to go past it

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Yeah hard to go past it

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The way you load em ull stack them 5 deep

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I re chambered my 7-300wsm(serious hitter) to 6.5 prc and am happy, i wont go back to a bigger cal.the 147s going mid 2900s flatten deer as good as the 175 eldxs going 3000+.the impact shock from the eldms is amazing and the prc is such a damn accurate calibre it makes shooting easy.my mate shot his first deer at 400 with it the other night.at the end of the day when long distance animal shooting precision is more important than power.an 147 eldm into the shoulder at 800 yards is going to kill.

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I re chambered my 7-300wsm(serious hitter) to 6.5 prc and am happy, i wont go back to a bigger cal.the 147s going mid 2900s flatten deer as good as the 175 eldxs going 3000+.the impact shock from the eldms is amazing and the prc is such a damn accurate calibre it makes shooting easy.my mate shot his first deer at 400 with it the other night.at the end of the day when long distance animal shooting precision is more important than power.an 147 eldm into the shoulder at 800 yards is going to kill.

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Awesome mate, interesting feedback. I keep hearing shoot to hunt podcast about little cals are better ect. With forum and backcountry podcast.

Depends what you want to achieve, i use to have a 6.5 creedmoor it was super accurate, but after shooting about 15 deer and couple bull Tahr with it using factory eldx, they would just run too far before expiring, a lot to do with shot placement i get that but the initial shock was not there. Went back to a 708 for a couple years which was better. Now use a 300wsm and have no issue's, still run on some
Heart shots as is expected but nothing like the 6.5.
This may not be an issue to you where you hunt, but in some of the steep country down here it can be the difference between finding the animal or not. The PRC will be better than the creedmoor i get that, but not a lot better.

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Depends what you want to achieve, i use to have a 6.5 creedmoor it was super accurate, but after shooting about 15 deer and couple bull Tahr with it using factory eldx, they would just run too far before expiring, a lot to do with shot placement i get that but the initial shock was not there. Went back to a 708 for a couple years which was better. Now use a 300wsm and have no issue's, still run on some
Heart shots as is expected but nothing like the 6.5.
This may not be an issue to you where you hunt, but in some of the steep country down here it can be the difference between finding the animal or not. The PRC will be better than the creedmoor i get that, but not a lot better.

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What sort of distance you shooting them at? ive had great performance from the 143x out to 350y from my 16" barrel

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Depends what you want to achieve, i use to have a 6.5 creedmoor it was super accurate, but after shooting about 15 deer and couple bull Tahr with it using factory eldx, they would just run too far before expiring, a lot to do with shot placement i get that but the initial shock was not there. Went back to a 708 for a couple years which was better. Now use a 300wsm and have no issue's, still run on some
Heart shots as is expected but nothing like the 6.5.
This may not be an issue to you where you hunt, but in some of the steep country down here it can be the difference between finding the animal or not. The PRC will be better than the creedmoor i get that, but not a lot better.

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I’m thinking that way now myself the 6.5 a good killer but animals tend to run I’ve gone back to 308 cheers


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I have a 6.5PRC, factory T3x 24 inch barrel running 143Eldx at 2963. Tipped over bull tahr at to 474m over the weekend, shot a few others between 330-450. Also shot large reds out to 342m. If shot placement is good they go down quick.

It is a joy to shoot and carry being pretty light and very accurate. Wind will be your biggest issue, but that goes for all calibres.

I have found the 143s a bit pencily as well if not hitting bone,but as said above the 147 is a different killer.its an internal mincer.

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Originally Posted by H.M

Depends what you want to achieve, i use to have a 6.5 creedmoor it was super accurate, but after shooting about 15 deer and couple bull Tahr with it using factory eldx, they would just run too far before expiring, a lot to do with shot placement i get that but the initial shock was not there. Went back to a 708 for a couple years which was better. Now use a 300wsm and have no issue's, still run on some
Heart shots as is expected but nothing like the 6.5.
This may not be an issue to you where you hunt, but in some of the steep country down here it can be the difference between finding the animal or not. The PRC will be better than the creedmoor i get that, but not a lot better.

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Cheers for the feedback appreciate it.

Of you're going to keep the barrel long, go for it. I went from 7mm rem mag at 24 inches to 6.5 prc at 20 inches and I regret chopping it.

I've also got a 300wsm now. The 6.5 is far less forgiving on shot placement than the 7mm was, combination of speed and mass of bullet I'm sure. I'm using ELD-X as I did in the rem mag.

In my case the prc has about the same recoil as my old rem mag because it weighs significantly less then the rem mag did.

Still kills deer, longest shot with the prc has been 250 yards, behind the high shoulder spot, tipped over a fallow spike no problem.

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Of you're going to keep the barrel long, go for it. I went from 7mm rem mag at 24 inches to 6.5 prc at 20 inches and I regret chopping it.

I've also got a 300wsm now. The 6.5 is far less forgiving on shot placement than the 7mm was, combination of speed and mass of bullet I'm sure. I'm using ELD-X as I did in the rem mag.

In my case the prc has about the same recoil as my old rem mag because it weighs significantly less then the rem mag did.

Still kills deer, longest shot with the prc has been 250 yards, behind the high shoulder spot, tipped over a fallow spike no problem.

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agreed dont chop a prc.i have one at 18" its doing 2680 with home loads.

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Originally Posted by Yesmate

agreed dont chop a prc.i have one at 18" its doing 2680 with home loads.

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Exactly why I've never gone down that road as your speed is less than an 18" .260 or creedmore and you are probably using 10 grains more powder.


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Originally Posted by Rated M for Magnum

Of you're going to keep the barrel long, go for it. I went from 7mm rem mag at 24 inches to 6.5 prc at 20 inches and I regret chopping it.

I've also got a 300wsm now. The 6.5 is far less forgiving on shot placement than the 7mm was, combination of speed and mass of bullet I'm sure. I'm using ELD-X as I did in the rem mag.

In my case the prc has about the same recoil as my old rem mag because it weighs significantly less then the rem mag did.

Still kills deer, longest shot with the prc has been 250 yards, behind the high shoulder spot, tipped over a fallow spike no problem.

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300wsm is no slouch, the 208 is a deer slayer, as well as the 215. The 7mm rem mag is my go to , I have a 30nosler. And a 260. I figure a 6.5 prc @2900 with a 147 would work in a 20inch.

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Exactly why I've never gone down that road as your speed is less than an 18" .260 or creedmore and you are probably using 10 grains more powder.


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Yeah I have a 260 and we don’t need to replicate that . With more recoil . It’s amazing how efficient the smaller cases are. Magnums have a fair bit more for little return.

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agreed dont chop a prc.i have one at 18" its doing 2680 with home loads.

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That’s really slow, I read all sorts of reports on expected speeds from 20 inch barrels. Surely an adi labeled powder with work.

sorry that was typo 2780 with 59grns rl25 147eldm.was in the low 2600s with factory eldx precision hunter.terrible.

Im pushing the 156 berger at 2950 in a 24inch tube and 2800 in a mates 20inch

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sorry that was typo 2780 with 59grns rl25 147eldm.was in the low 2600s with factory eldx precision hunter.terrible.

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That makes a lot more sense , not to bad for an 18inch, have to be happy with that.

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Originally Posted by Tim Dicko

300wsm is no slouch, the 208 is a deer slayer, as well as the 215. The 7mm rem mag is my go to , I have a 30nosler. And a 260. I figure a 6.5 prc @2900 with a 147 would work in a 20inch.

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No argument there, I haven't shot anything other than paper with the wsm but my mate has one and complains that the damage is unreal on anything he shoots. He's trying to find a bullet that does less damage!

Yeah 2900 with the 147 would be great, probably achievable too. I'm sending 143 ELD-X at 2950 but that's maxed out with 2217 and Lapua brass. I might play with the 147s one day...I did hear a lot about them failing in flight and that they aren't as efficient further out compared to the 140 ELDM, but I haven't experienced it personally.

I'm using Super performance in mine. Tried 2217 it was quite a bit slower.

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No argument there, I haven't shot anything other than paper with the wsm but my mate has one and complains that the damage is unreal on anything he shoots. He's trying to find a bullet that does less damage!

Yeah 2900 with the 147 would be great, probably achievable too. I'm sending 143 ELD-X at 2950 but that's maxed out with 2217 and Lapua brass. I might play with the 147s one day...I did hear a lot about them failing in flight and that they aren't as efficient further out compared to the 140 ELDM, but I haven't experienced it personally.

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You need to try Hodgdon Superperformance 2960fps with 142 ABLR.

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That makes a lot more sense , not to bad for an 18inch, have to be happy with that.

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Still only .260 speeds from a 18" with a long mag and bolt stop Tikka and Hodgdon Superperformance or RL 26

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Still only .260 speeds from a 18" with a long mag and bolt stop Tikka and Hodgdon Superperformance or RL 26

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loading like for like re powders,projectiles the prc will have it all day over the .260 or creed.different calibre different Load ingredients is not a comparison.Rl26 is not readily available,18"PRCs doing a shade over 2900 with 156 is talked about on some other sites weather you believe that or not, is far superior to what a creed or .260 will do.
What does your 18" .260 do with a 147or 156?

@Tim I reckon you would struggle to get 2900fps with the 147 out of a 20” barrel, I’m getting 2852fps with Re26 (56gn) and 2217 was slower (2760@57gn) but a bit more accurate, as others have said the 6.5PRC slows up a lot when it’s chopped, I wouldn’t do a 20” one again as it’s not that far ahead of my 260? Mine doesn’t like Superformance for some reason either?

If I was doing it again I’d go 20” 7PRC suppressed, then you have the option of some good 150-162gn pills to get the speed back if that’s your jam.

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loading like for like re powders,projectiles the prc will have it all day over the .260 or creed.different calibre different Load ingredients is not a comparison.Rl26 is not readily available,18"PRCs doing a shade over 2900 with 156 is talked about on some other sites weather you believe that or not, is far superior to what a creed or .260 will do.
What does your 18" .260 do with a 147or 156?

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Never tried the 156 but 143 or 147 2818 from a 18 " and 2860 from 20" both Tikka

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You need to try Hodgdon Superperformance 2960fps with 142 ABLR.

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Why? For 10 fps? And at a much higher cost per round?

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loading like for like re powders,projectiles the prc will have it all day over the .260 or creed.different calibre different Load ingredients is not a comparison.Rl26 is not readily available,18"PRCs doing a shade over 2900 with 156 is talked about on some other sites weather you believe that or not, is far superior to what a creed or .260 will do.
What does your 18" .260 do with a 147or 156?

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Reloading speeds are equivalent to talking about appendage size. Everyone is up for a boast until an accurate measuring device comes out.

Hornady have said that some people claim 6.5 CM loads that they have not been able to replicate, unless using the 6.5 PRC.

Either someone has a broken chrono or... :ORLY:

Don't get why abusing your equipement to dangerous pressures is some sort of boast?

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Reloading speeds are equivalent to talking about appendage size. Everyone is up for a boast until an accurate measuring device comes out.

Hornady have said that some people claim 6.5 CM loads that they have not been able to replicate, unless using the 6.5 PRC.

Either someone has a broken chrono or... :ORLY:

Don't get why abusing your equipement to dangerous pressures is some sort of boast?

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agree 100%.wouldnt believe any thing to be fair, not that people are lying but as you said differences in cronos,its like car dynos they all read/calibrated different.hornady claims are wildly over rated on there precision hunter lines in prc.if you can get just above box speeds with hand loads your going good as I heard they got those speeds with rl26 or the equvilent powder they used to use.

I’m sure some of the load data has been tweaked from hogdon or something, hornadys speeds are a fair bit higher on there data. Looking at you blokes results it’s got 75 to 100fps on a creed really at that barrel length. I tend to run no more than book max for I have little need for max speed.