If you don't have either the components or the live ammo it's a shit time to own a 7mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
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If you don't have either the components or the live ammo it's a shit time to own a 7mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
Rest assured there is a huge shipment of Winchester coming in in the new year for anyone whose interester
Funny how trends are, as I'm swimming in 7mm bullets here in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
In fact, the 'primer shortage' didn't really kick in till this year.
Shows how small our market is vs. NZ!
Lots of love for the M7's here too. The Yanks are starting to pay silly money for them now eh. I run the Remington Model 7 Enthusiasts Group on FB and there's often posts from the US members about the price some M7's are going for. Apparantly its near impossible to find a M7 in 7mm08 or 308 over there now.Quote:
Originally Posted by caberslash
Yup, crazy to think the new Remington Arms has decided not to nake them anymore!Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
I think the 7mm08 is about right among the mid size cartridge class. Fits a 2.8" bolt and mag, doesn't need a fat bolt face. Marginally smaller bore than the 308 but not getting tight like the 260/6.5 where KE really starts to suffer. Interesting it not loaded to the huge variety of bullet weights the 308 is. But 140 gr seems pretty optimal, often getting 2800 fps with a respectable BC. Current fashion for short barrels <18" just muddy the waters.
It took me a few months and talking nicely to the agent at the time (James Pain) but I got 140 factory Norma and later another 100 which has set me up for brass for a decade.
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These have the 140 gr Nosler ballistic tip, which blows up and kills so well, specially on goats and sika.
Here they are on paper. The grid is 1" squares.
The rifle has a standard weight barrel no fluting or what have you and it shoots close first shot cold bore and doesn't walk on strings.
I had a bit of trouble this day with the focus ring coming loose but sorted it - zero not affected. It was a Leupold VX1, perhaps not the clearest of scopes but rock solid and reliable.
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This is a MOA holdover chart for that scope.
I didn't dial it much but could have I guess.
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I essentially reproduced the factory load and reload with the most easily available components.
I've been able to use the same load for 9 years - just ideal.
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Next I did paper testing at 100, 300 and 500m with my new mil / mil scope.
Sorry its pixelated, I couldn't find the original jpeg. This is 1 cm grid.
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Putting those numbers into JBM, Shooter and later Strelock Pro and adjusting the velocity to fit, I made up this fancy drop chart with ballpark corrections for slope and metres per click for fine adjustment at longer ranges. I set it for a mid altitude barometric pressure.
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That has served me well for field target shooting out to 600m and the very occasional hunting shot outside 300m.
The trajectory from 30m to 130m is within 1cm of the sight line so no aiming off is needed and I can shoot a hare that far if I get the opportunity.
Here's the obligatory pig to show it can kill one:
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Smallest animal I've shot with it is a rat and biggest a 11" bull tahr so its a very all rounder cartridge.
After one or two thousand rounds it got a bit hard to start the cleaning rod down the bore.
I did a good carbon clean and soaked out a certain amount of copper.
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That really made no difference and there was just a little etching and firecracking in the first few centimetres past the throat but the rifling was basically still all there.
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I dealt with this using the scotchbrite pad method recommended by Nathan Foster, followed by JB Bore paste and then the patches went smoothly down the bore again.
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I think it will need this about every 1000 rounds by the feel of it.
It's done 3000 rounds now and still seems to have the same accuracy as when new and the trajectory hasn't changed.
My brass has been reloaded about 15 times and only 1 in a hundred each time I fire them gets has got a wee crack in the neck. They've been annealed once.
The 7mm08 is good for barrel and brass life.
More recently, Norma ammo has been hard to find. A shipment of Sako brand 7mm08 came in about this time last year and I bought a hundred. It's not every year you can get the 7mm08 factory ammo of your choice but if you put aside $500 for the sunny day, you can keep yourself going.
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7mm08 works fine with necked down .308 brass, if you can't find that then it really is the end of days!
I’m glad you started this thread. Often joked about, but you can’t really go past a 7mm08 as a do all kiwi hunting rifle. I’ve used a few but only ever owned one. This little Model 7, with a carbon fibre stock, DPT suppressor and a Nikon Scope.
Is killed everything I’ve ever pointed it at. I’ve never bothered reloading for it, as the factory 150 ELDX shoot so we’ll.
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I hope to add a model 7 708 to my safe purely for the love of model 7 and I have two dpt magnums I can merge to do a 708
Shame the new 'Remington Arms' has decided not to continue making them... :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelton
Don't sell it then!Quote:
Originally Posted by craigc
You'll sorely regret selling it!!
I'd like to add 3 more to my safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelton
223, 260 and 308. The 223 will be the priority as I bloody miss having one after horse face features took my last 2
I’m fortunate enough to have the most current model7 SS in .223 with a 9 twist it is fantastic loves the 55 and 65sgk with 2206h I’d also love a .260 to shoot the 130 eldm sports a timney trigger and a dpt magnum mk11Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
Not a bad looking head :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Southerner223
BLR lightning.
18.5" DPT. 2-7 bushnell elite (rain guard)
Trigger job.
Over the dog set up.
150 grain speer hotcors is what I feed it.
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droooooling
18" Tikka t3. 150gr ELD-X. Dropped this fella at 308mhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...86f1d30e27.jpg
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Anyone using the 162 amax/eldm? Interested to know fps vs barrel length for my kimber when it turns up
@7mmsaum yes i remember . Good times in the kaweka's . These days hed be carrying my deer back !Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
I was getting 2530fps with them in an 18inch barrel
2640 fps in my 18” sako 85 cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
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That sounds like the go @buzzman
What powder?
42gr of 08 but be careful cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
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I'm not an owner, but I am a believer... On steel at 3013 yards means it can't be all that bad!
Mark and Sam after work being exceptional, as usual.
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This one is a Howa lightweight cut down to 17.5 for the DPT mag suppressor to be flush. I run 120g NBT hand loaded.
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beautiful...the rifle not bad either.
Shot my first 8 point sika with a. Good old trusty 7mm08 t3. 18 inch barrel sending 140 nbts at 2650. Bang flopped that stag at a shade under 400m.
I'll pick another one up eventually. Want a good kimber wearing a vx3 HD as a lightweight alpiner
As someone who's passionate about hunting and firearms, it's great to see like-minded individuals sharing their experiences and knowledge. I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment in this thread. The 7mm08 is a fantastic round that offers a great balance between power and recoil. And yes, necked down .308 brass works like a charm with this round. However, I wouldn't go as far as saying it's the end of days if you can't find it.
Ive got one, a sako finnlight, 708 chopped to 18”, has served me well, mostly my bush rifle, have not spent any time working loads, kinda old school with this rile, any old ammo, bag flop every-time, fixed duplex, dont dial, 154 round nose have been sterling performer’s, last few years.
but i much prefer my M70 7x57, and the 7mm mauser hand-loaded has a bit more grunt, i guess now 30 years with a m70 in 7x57,
The 7mm bore is a great place for a deer rifle, and for you kiwi hand-loaders, we are seeing sufficient increasers in powder and projectiles, since xmass in Canada.
Brought this about 15 years ago an old Sako Forrester L579 action reclaimed and rebuilt from 308 to 7mm-08 on a laminated stock, I have cut the barrel down to 18" and now run a DPT mag suppressor. Its a bit heavy but shots factory ammo better than I can. When I first got it we worked up a reload and had it shooting pretty tight groups at 200m, have a few of those left but now just buy the factory corelites and sakos that seem to shoot ok out of it so happy to feed it them for now.
I did notice that 7mm-08 ammo is bloody hard to get and 308 is way more available so it might go back to a 308 one day but the 100 odd rounds I have for it will last me many a year at the rate I shoot game..
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I like it, cant see me getting rid of it has a nice solid/safe Half bolt, sprung floor so no mag to loose.
Been messing with my other rifles alot more 7mmsaum, 280ai and a 223 so my load development for this been slacking. Box of Belmont 139sst for the meantime, going I dunno how fast/slow. Carried this rifle on several multi-day missions without firing,tested its zero last week bang on, the z3 3-9 in talleys had taken some knocks so thought I'd check.
This guy came charging in yesterday, unlucky timing for him. Didn't take another step. Still works
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Unlucky for the woolen jumper yesterday
7mm08. Belmont 139sst yet again
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Greetings All,
Although I have never actually owned a 7mm-08 I have worked with a few. The first, shortly after introduction, was throwing fliers with the then go to powder W760. A bit of testing with the Dupont IMR4064 and IMR4895 I had on hand gave more consistent groups. Looking back on my loads they are all above current book max but were probably max at the time. More recently AR2208 was used in a different 7mm-08 with good results. Earlier this year my son leant me his target 7mm-08 for my F Class shooting. 6 rounds were used getting a rough zero and initial load development and a further 6 to get a final load using AR2206H. 2 more were used to get a 600 yard zero using a target at 200 metres marked with the calculated point of impact for 600 yards (550 metres). Job done.
All of this gives me the impression that the 7mm-08 is an easy cartridge to load for. Had I bought my first centre fire rifle just a few years later it might have been a 7mm-08 rather than a .308W.
Regards Grandpamac.
What flavor of projectile are you using? My M70 doesn't seem to like 140's so I'm trying to get mine to group 162 Eldm's. I'm not quite where I want to be and was considering a different powderQuote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
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Cheers,
Few young bucks met their match yesterday. While snooping along too close to wire.
After spotting these grazing down the face, I closed from 500odd yards down to around 120-150yrd in some patchy Manuka. With conditions/wind in favour, was able to wait for 10min until the right opportunity presented. 3 from 3 in as many breathes.. not normal for me but stoked the plan came together on this occasion.
7mm-08, Remington Model 7, Mk4 3-10.
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My fav. Tikka T3x superlite. 16” barrel. Hardy suppressor. Carbon stock. Fluted bolt and mtn bolt knob. Optilocks with a z5. 140gn Bt at 2580 fps. Deer don’t like it.
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3 from 3. Spring venison at its best.
Hi anyone using Superformance with the 162x in there 708? Cheers
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Greetings@7mm tragic,Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mm tragic
Sorry for the long delay, didn't spot your reply. I am using 145 grain Speer flat base projectiles as they are what I had in stock. They are giving dead on 2,800 fps in the 26 inch barrel with 41 grains of AR2206H. My son had been using the 162 grain ELDM's with AR2209 and R17 powders with good results. The rifle is custom built and I have not measured the barrel twist so your results may differ in your Winchester? Although old fashioned I often prefer flat base projectiles for rifles that are a little grumpy about shooting well. Something to try. Boat tails can be finicky in some rifles.
Regards Grandpamac.
Yep i do with 162 eldm. Mag primer and compressed load but works wellQuote:
Originally Posted by buzzman
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Tikka T3X 7mm08 using Sako 140 grain ammo. Leupold 4 x 12 scope. First deer in a while in mild Canterbury conditions. There would be snow there today!
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