Thread: 7mm08 vs 7mmSaum for max 500m Hunting

Hi @Edelweiss are you planning to use this in Europe or NZ (or elsewhere).
If you’re thinking about Steinwild or wapiti, 1000 ft.lb (1355 J) at target could be a bit low . For chamois, 7mm08 would be OK.

Have a look at Matunas Optimal Game Weight formula to compare terminal ballistic potential. This gives an output in animal weight and gives more weight to velocity than bullet mass, which seems to match practical experience in longer range hunting. Even so, heavier bullets score better due to higher ballistic coefficients, I think.

You might think that you will fire only a few shots hunting but you will actually need to fire many in practice to achieve / maintain proficiency for 400m shooting. My opinion is that when people talk about shooting past 500m, they are talking about shooting targets, which is sn interest you will develop if you go down this path.

How popular are those two cartridges in Germany ? Do many people still use the 7x64 ? Is the 7mm08 used more than the 7x57 now ?

in Germany we shoot 7x57 and 7x64 thats true ;-) But in Germany people think 7x57 is for 150m and 7x64 is for 250m ;-) for 300m people they need a 300winmag better a weatherby ;-) and discuss if it works on 33pound animal ;-)

some years ago i met a businessman who has ordered a 300 win mag with mouzle break (wrong installed so the hot heat go every time on the left side off and the shooting group went right) and a 25 scoped for hunting roe deer in poland until 200m. was funny to look at him by shooting the scope in. When I told him that I had shot all deer/red stags with .243 for the last 5 years, he didn't believe me.

Originally Posted by Edelweiss

in Germany we shoot 7x57 and 7x64 thats true ;-) But in Germany people think 7x57 is for 150m and 7x64 is for 250m ;-) for 300m people they need a 300winmag better a weatherby ;-) and discuss if it works on 33pound animal ;-)

some years ago i met a businessman who has ordered a 300 win mag with mouzle break (wrong installed so the hot heat go every time on the left side off and the shooting group went right) and a 25 scoped for hunting roe deer in poland until 200m. was funny to look at him by shooting the scope in. When I told him that I had shot all deer/red stags with .243 for the last 5 years, he didn't believe me.

From my experience the same thinking also applies in Austria as I used to hunt with my wife’s uncle over there, he hunted everything with a .300 WM.

I shot my first roe with a 7x64 which is surprisingly small, a .222 / .223 would be ample but isn’t allowed under their hunting laws