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I was just wondering if any of you fellas over there know of a timber stock or chassis that will bolt straight to a sako roughtech range 7mag the one they come out with I find is to pliable when using a bipod the stock will push up and touch the bottom of the barrel I've glassed it and machined 3/16'' out of the barrel channel and this doesn't fix the problem so even if I have to go with a pistol grip but would prefer to stay with a conventional stock or tactical one weight is no problem cheers
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Originally Posted by rigga
That's surprising. I've found the Sako and Tikka factory stocks to be good in that regards.
Yes dogmatix I was led to believe that too I had a plastic stock on a sako 25-06 had no problems I have a laminated stock on a 22-250 and after several months the clear epoxy on the stock started peeling off after 6yrs it's almost all peeled off now this stock on the roughtech well i'll have to put up with it till I find an alternative stock i have owned sako all my life and found them good but since they changed hands I find quality assurance is slipping especially with stocks I think from here on in i'll build my rifles rather than pay a premium price for something that has to have work done on it
The roughtech series should come with a bell & carlson style graphite/aramid/kevlar type stock with a full length aluminium skeleton/bedding block. Very very stiff.
Is that the stock you have on it? I cant imagine an actual roughtech stock being pliable.
No mine doesn't have a bell & Carlson the bell & Carlson is on the roughtech pro but my roughtech range doesn't the bell & Carlson has a cheek rest mine doesn't I have contacted the gun shop where I bought it and they inform me only the ''pro'' comes with the B & C stock. my stock is solid to 1'' past the tang then it's soft I have spoken to a target shooter and he says drill from front to tang along the length of the stock or just past the tang and insert rods and epoxy them in place maybe it will work but if it don't my stock will be buggered I suppose there's no loss there then thought At the end of the day I thought it would be easier to just change stocks but am finding it fairly hard without having to strip the gun and send it away to match the stock just a timber stock will do nothing fancy can't even get info on whether a tikka stock will fit or mod 85 sako , sako won't answer so i'll plod on i'll find something thanks
You may wish to do some more research into what you actually have. Both the roughtech models are Sako A7 actions - no other a Tikka or SAKO stock is compatible with the A7.
Both the Range and Pro come with a Sako stock that has a aluminium chassis like a B&C stock.
If you have a Range it should have a heavy barrel - the factory thread is M18x1
The Pro has a semi-heavy barrel - factory thread is M15x1
Post a photo of your stock and it will be easy to tell if it is really a Roughtech stock.
https://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-a7/a7-roughtech-range
https://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-a7/a7-roughtech-pro
Sounds like a standard A7
The "Roughtech" designation designates that it has the rigid aluminium skeleton B&C type stock.
Both the Roughtech Pro and the Roughtech Range have a version of it -the range having a higher cheek piece & wider bench rest style fore end.
If you don't have this stock then you don't have a Roughtech, and instead have a regular A7.
Hit your retailer & Sako up for a replacement stock - a B&C with ali bedding blocks. If they sold you a “Roughtech” then you already paid for a decent stock
Here is a Sako roughtech range factory stock for sale
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sako-A7-LA-...oAAOSweeJcpUWm
Just to confuse matters - Bell & Carlson also make a couple of stocks for the Sako A7 in LA and SA.
Bell and Carlson: SAKO STOCKS
Mine is definitely a roughtech range 26'' barrel fluted green stock 18-1'' thread the only thing is that the aluminium frame is broken between the tang and the for hand stock but it feels like there is nothing in there or maybe is it just a faulty stock? Yes that is my stock Kiwiinseatle
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If the ali bedding block is cracked or broken then they need to replace the stock free of charge
There you go 1/4'' or better to nothing with bugger all pressure also just got off the phone with dealer and he informs me they are B&C type stocks he had no answers to why it was so soft also all screws were done up tight so with this when the bipod is on and touching th ground if left go half hour or so the barrel will be touching the stock from sag
I suppose so chainsaw but I've machined the barrel channel out to try and get it working but hopefully you are right only problem is the gun was posted to me and the gun dealer said it was ok when it left the shop so I may have to claim on my insurance just easier to change stocks sorry to sound so negative but I've had enough with this stock in all instances this stock should be perfect also it would take too long to argue my case to sako without the gun dealers backing as I said before guns are getting that expensive and things like this happening to premium priced rifle it will be as cheap to build a rifle to your needs without having to fix things after paying a premium price
Yep that's a Roughtech stock. Your issue is certainly not a common one. I have never seen or heard of anyone breaking the aluminium frame in this style of stock. They are molded into the stock, which even by itself is fairly stiff so I would think it would take a manufacturing defect, or an incredible amount of force to break it. eg you need to bend a piece of aluminium a fair bit to break it, and I cant image anyone could physically bend the stock enough to bend the aluminium within it enough to break it.
Would be interested to see a photo of inside your stock where its broken? Someone may have a bright idea for a fix if we can see exactly where its broken.
The problem now as you say is you cut out the barrel channel which I would think would make it unwarrantable. Pity you didn't release it was broken before attempting to fix it and you would have had a warranty claim.
Yes ChrisW I should have realised when I received the rifle and the stock was tight up under the barrel so I machined the barrel channel then glass bedded it thinking that's all that was needed and it wasn't until I put a bipod on and sat the rifle down then I realised how soft it was I understand it's my bad but understanding doesn't help but i'll never get caught again i'll go through them with a fine tooth comb before buying
or paying any money now I suppose i'll have one more go at fixing it by drilling 2 holes along the stock fore end and insert small rods and epoxy them in i'm still pissed off with the way sako and the gun seller have delt with the matter so maybe my last sako from Berretta and that gun dealer I do intend keeping the rifle so I won't have to worry about resale value I might look at getting a laminated or timber stock made in the meantime carbon fibre like some one has mentioned might be ok although weight doesn't matter as I don't do much hunting on foot anymore as my old legs aren't what they used to be it's mostly sit and ambush so I use the bipod a lot cheers and thanks
Did you buy from Shooters Supplies in Mackay ?
No Ground Control they wouldn't trade my roughtech 25-06 which I had to do to buy this roughtech 7mag I won't name names as it would not be to any bodies benefit to do so if you pay top money for a rifle you should at least get things replaced instantly not send the rifle back to gun shop then they send the stock to sako who then decides whether you get a new one or not time quoted was 3-9 mths a similar thing happened with my laminated stock on my sako mod 85 22-250 when the clear epoxy started peeling off same then 3-9mths so I decided to keep it and revarnish it later on most of the clear has now peeled of so will redo it shortly things you shouldn't have to do when buying a premium rifle try telling them you'll pay for them when you're satisfied with them and see how far you get maybe I expect too much from them but to me if there is mistrust in them then i'll build to suit myself
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Originally Posted by rigga
Is there more to the story ??
No mate there isn't more to the story I took them out when I took the bipod off I have both and it is brand new I've fired about 100 shots through it developing a load for it and shooting some wild cattle and a couple of wild dogs it is what I said bought the gun when it come to the shop they sent it to me by registered post I received it saw the barrel was touching so then machined 3/16'' from barrel channel glass bedded it found the barrel was not touching put bipod on and found it still sagged to touch so machined another 1/16'' out and still sags to touch after awhile much communication has been going back and forth and other than packing the whole lot up and sending it back to sako (Berretta) and away for a long stint nothing is going to happen so as I said i'll use it as is for now because I need it for what I do pest control I can't afford to not have it now I don't have the 25-06 but i'll be looking for a better stock and I will start building a new rifle for a spare When I look back I should have packed it up and sent it straight back to them instead of trying to fix it myself there's nothing with the rifle just that stock
Well I do feel your pain and I am very sorry to hear about your dilemma. Thanks for sharing on the Forum in that it may help us all learn from your experience.
Sorry if I missed anything but I see Boyd's do an A7-s and A7-m stock. From what I have read in other posts it looks like we can get them imported again.
Looks like they still have the US$100 limitation on exports so you will probably have to go through a licensed importer.
Ordering one would get you an item of known standard and would not leave you without a rifle while you wait for it to arrive.
Does not help the foul taste I'm guessing this hole exercise has left behind.
Z
ps I ended up going down the path of a custom build. Wanted a Steyr 243 suitable for up to 105 gr with a walking varmint grade barrel but the cost was ridiculous.
Ended up buying a Barnard SM action & trigger, imported a basic boyds thumb hole (Ready for an upgrade to the At-one now), Got the floor plate and 2 mag's from Aussie, Then sent the action to Trueflite for a barrel to be fitted. Under $3k
(Then Steyr brought out the Prohunter range and slashed the price. The stock would still need replacing)
Thanks KiwiinSeattle and ZQLewis for your thoughts and info, Yes ZQLewis it's basically down to the bad taste left now but mistrust has followed but I have an old 30-06 ''Hyme'' mauser sporter I barrelled in 22-250 to use as a single shot so I can cannibalise it for a chamber I believe they were made in the USA under licence to mauser Germany it's a good looking and tough rifle so whether I go back to 30-06 or another caliber I haven't decided I really would like 7mag or 300 but I can't use the mauser for those due to bolt face size i'm looking at $400-$800 for stock the the price to rebarrel is $1200 so in the vicinity of $2000 to $2500 for a rifle designed for me that's 30-06 to go 7mag/300 I may have to buy a rifle with a shot out barrel and rebarrel but again set up for me bit different to paying $2000- $3000 for something you have to spend money on to get it up to scratch anyway we'll see and hope its a plus
I’m really struggling with this. As @ChrisW said, that takes serious force to break the chassis inside the stock.
I would say that the stock would be showing obvious signs that this had happened. Possibly even really sloppy and broken.
There must be a way of claiming insurance as the dealer said it was ‘fine’ when it left so one has to assume it’s been broken in transit. I’m not buying that so the dealer knew something was up or has been duped. Either way, you’ve paid for something that was supposed to be in ‘good working order’ and it really isn’t. Have you covered the chassis with bedding compound or is it clearly visible?
Beretta are traditionally pretty difficult to deal with.
I’ve seen SA Boyd’s stocks on the Aus EBay site but not long action unless you’re keen on a GRS and they’re not cheap.
G'day SlimySquirrel yes I to have struggled with it and doubt that ithas a broken back bone as being aluminium it would most likely have to be bent back and forth several times to break it but what I did hear today from a gunsmith was that the integral frame only goes from stock butt to just past the recoil lug and from there is where mine is bending now I don't know how true that info is but if it is accurate then the stock is not what sako is implying as a full length integral chassis I myself can't believe it would move so much with a complete full length back bone also this gunsmith said it was not uncommon for these types of stock to have movement in them that's why so many people change them but unfortunately they haven't built a timber or any other type of chassis for this rifle up till now as far as he knows I got a quote today to replicate this stock in timber and he said i'd be looking at $500 to $1200 depending on the finish I wanted then a 6mth wait after today i'm seriously thinking of building a rifle in 7mag then selling this one I just can't feel at ease with this stock last resort I may even look at an Accuracy international stock and see if it can be fitted to a sako roughtech range
G’day
Have you contacted Hatchers Rifle Stocks ?
They would be able to duplicate your existing stocks dimensions .
Hatchers Rifle Stocks
Have you tried shooting it or had the bore inspected? Could be worth staying patient with it as you have the barrelled action so a stock may come up.
They’re relatively popular in Aus and I see the standard stock (with no bedding block) is available for $200 and this place is worth checking out?
https://sjstradingco.com.au/bell-and...o-a7.html.html
I’ve really enjoyed my B&C stocks on my Tikka and they made a big difference to the consistency. Maybe the sporter would be a better fit if it’s a carry rig?
Yes Ground Control I have sent them a email and because it's not a standard stock like Remington, howa, or other common stocks there is extra costs to put it into the other frames to inlet and other things then i'm lead to believe I will have to finish it off and bringing the cost up to the price of most finished stocks but still keeping them in mind but I would like to see one that has been done to where they send it out
There's nothing wrong with the action or barrel it shoots fine actually very good but when the stock is touching the barrel it can shoot up to 1'' out at 100yds but that isn't the point you pay premium price for a rifle you should get a respectable quality rifle and service if I had wanted a cheap rifle to spend money on to improve it I would have bought a cheap Remington where stocks can be interchanged, after market parts are plentiful but I didn't I bought a more expensive rifle so I could use it straight out of the blocks and not have down time building it so far the cheaper choice would have been the go don't get me wrong I like sako have all sakos bar one but the last two have stock issues and no back up service years ago I lent a rifle to a mate and he broke the stock on it I contacted sako and sent the caliber and serial number of rifle and a photo to see if they could make and match it they contacted me by mail and said hang tight they were looking into it 2mths later a package turned up in the mail brand new stock no charge and a letter thanking me for bringing it to their attention I nearly fell over you don't get that sort of attention or service now even if you do pay
Yep, fair point and I get that.
I was coming from the "what now" scenario. As in, you have a barrelled action and useless stock so was more problem solving than anything else.
Yeah thanks Slimy Squirrel appreciate that mate :thumbsup: apart from the stock I can't fault the rifle love the caliber easy to find loads for seems to shoot most bullets fairly good not too picky couldn't want for more but as it is it's like driving a Rolls Royce with one flat tyre
