Another what rifle thread

Ok so mrs northdude is doing quite well in the 22lr competitions she is entering and is starting to want to get into a nicer 22 she is currently using a mk2 savage which is going ok but would like something nicer as you do as you gain more confidence and experience shes a right hander so theres lots of options the 3 I'm going to look more into are anschutz as that's what I use and they seem pretty decent even tho mines not a top of the line model or lithgow or weirarch or however you spell it any other recommendations and no we dont want a chinese shitter

how much are you looking to spend? anschutz and weirach are not the same price class. cz mtr recently entered into the $1400+ class. and there are a few sako quads around

I could spare a CZ 455 American with tuned trigger but probably not a big step up from Savage?

My wife has an Anschutz 1416D that shoots very well with CCI subsonic but its preferred ammo is the Eley HV HP with the black case that Shooting Stuff sell. I have a Weihrauch HW 60 J 22 LR which I have found shoots the RWS HV HP well, the group in the photo was shot at 75m.
There is a big weight difference between the two rifles which both have high end 3-9x42mm scopes. The Anschutz weighs 3250 grams or 7lb 3oz where the Weihrauch tips the scales at 4150 grams or 9lb 2oz.
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Originally Posted by Ultimitsu

how much are you looking to spend? anschutz and weirach are not the same price class. cz mtr recently entered into the $1400+ class. and there are a few sako quads around

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Looking around the 1500 dollar mark

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Originally Posted by muzza

This one

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...edaec34821-005

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That does look like incredible value.

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Originally Posted by northdude

Ok so mrs northdude is doing quite well in the 22lr competitions she is entering and is starting to want to get into a nicer 22 she is currently using a mk2 savage which is going ok but would like something nicer as you do as you gain more confidence and experience shes a right hander so theres lots of options the 3 I'm going to look more into are anschutz as that's what I use and they seem pretty decent even tho mines not a top of the line model or lithgow or weirarch or however you spell it any other recommendations and no we dont want a chinese shitter

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What type of competitions? Shooting from standing, prone, bench?

Prone sitting kneeling standing

Try a lithgow - I have one myself and so do some mates who target shoot
If you are ‘north’ as in Whangarei PM me

Perhaps like the indoor 25m NZDA organised shoots we have locally? I shoot that myself with a Voere 2000, wife uses a BRNO #1. One more question for the moment then - how much weight is she going to be comfortable with?

Edit - and another: preference for wood stock vs. synthetic?

50m outdoor nada shoots if shes not walking around hunting with it most weights would be fine

Nzda

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Originally Posted by muzza

This one

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...edaec34821-005

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It would be used with a scope on it

Here's my 2c. Bear in mind most of this info is secondhand experience only.

Assuming you want to buy new:

• Weihrauch Hw60 or HW66 if you value walnut and steel craftsmanship and can put up with it being on the heavier side. At the price they're listed in the Reloaders catalogue they seem like a remarkable bargain - reviews typically put them ahead of the 64-action Anschutz.
• Tikka T1X if you want a lighter option and are not worried about plastic. I believe they are also compatible with T3 stocks if you wanted to source a walnut take-off, in fact Guncity offered a walnut stocked version at one time?
• Anschutz 64 action which is what I presume you already have. Various configurations available.
• Lithgow I know very little about other than they would be worth a look based on reputation. And that the trigger is only adjustable by swapping springs.
• CZ I get the impression might be more hit and miss than the others in terms of target accuracy? If going this way I'd look at either the older 452 or the new 457 and give the 455 in the middle a miss.
• Howa have just come out with the 1100? Bit of an unknown quantity at this point though.

If you consider secondhand, then the list extends to 54-action Anschutz and Sako .22's. I know Taupo H&F had an Anschutz 1422 (54 action with the Monte-Carlo stock) a couple of weeks back they were selling on behalf - comes with a Leupold AO target scope from memory. I didn't look closely at it (I'm not in the market) but I think the price was around your range.

Do you think the tikka would be up there with the others mentioned

I love my Tikka T1x, I have 2 CZ452s and I 100% prefer the Tikka.

The thing that drew me too the Tikka was the ability to use T3x stocks and accessories if I wanted to in the future.
I've kept the factory stock but added a cheek piece, vertical grip and forend, I like it set up that way but may go for a chassis in the future.

If you were planning to keep it in factory format then a Weihrauch or Anschutz may be a nicer option but I planned to tinker with my T1 from day one.
A mate has a new Anschutz 1761 on order which i'll be keen to compare to the T1, no idea when he will actually get it though.

I don't know what stocks you are allowed to use in 4 position or what stocks are best suited for that style of shooting, the stock and trigger are probably the two most important aspects that will help or hinder you in positional shooting.

Its basicly 4 position sporting rifle comps

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Originally Posted by northdude

Do you think the tikka would be up there with the others mentioned

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Guessing here, but of the new guns I'd put the Weihrauch and the Anschutz 64 at the top with the Tikka slightly behind them, and the CZ slightly behind that. On average.

I doubt there can ever be a definitive answer to one of these questions. Even if you just looked at pure accuracy and took all personal preference out of it how do you find someone who has the experience to give you a proper comparison? Not many people around who have multiple high-end .22's to shoot head-to-head, who are good enough shots to really prove the rifles accuracy, can conduct an unbiased review, AND can account for the fact that for any given rifle make and model some examples will shoot better than others anyway, and probably all with different ammo types to boot.

Make sure you don't discount what she wants. I've fallen into that trap before.

Yea just getting ideas of what to try out she knows she wants to step up from the savage but not sure what to

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Originally Posted by northdude

Yea just getting ideas of what to try out she knows she wants to step up from the savage but not sure what to

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The tikka could be a pretty good option. Throw the bolt on pistol grip and wide forend and youll still be well short of your budget. Should have way nicer ergos than the Savage. Tikka have the edge in that price range imo just due to the now lego nature of the platform.

Fwiw The lithgow Ive played with was an absolute laser. They are a bloody good rifle

you might consider waiting a little bit - Ken from 55Six just posted a few days ago that he is bringing in the Begara B14-R barreled actions in 22LR, these are built for NRL22 in the states - I have no idea what pricing will be like but they are supposed to be awesome rifles - and you get access to a lot of stocks/chassis etc as they are R700 platform.

Tikka T1X UPR could be a solid option - or a standard T1X in a chassis.

Ruger have the new Ruger American Long Range Target which looks good - but I haven't seen one in NZ yet, or the Ruger Precision which is readily available.

The Lithgow is supposed to be awesome - check out Taranaki Long Range Shooters - he's done quite a few videos with the Lithgow LA101 and a T1X