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Burb122 Any one have there B-cat? 06-10-2012, 06:40 PM
compound Yes same rules so engineers... 06-10-2012, 07:00 PM
mikee Had my B for 17 years and... 06-10-2012, 08:13 PM
P38 Yep same rules for B & E... 06-10-2012, 08:15 PM
Burb122 Oh true, so do they check you... 06-10-2012, 09:43 PM
Burb122 Is it just a visit to the... 07-10-2012, 08:08 AM
compound Just a visit to check the... 07-10-2012, 08:35 AM
bas Looks like its another case... 07-10-2012, 11:08 AM
Toby Are you allowed to hunt with... 07-10-2012, 11:11 AM
P38 Unfortunately No! You an... 07-10-2012, 11:15 AM
Toby Oh right, That's pretty dumb... 07-10-2012, 11:16 AM
P38 Yep Hunting with a pistol... 07-10-2012, 11:27 AM
Toby What are the reason's why we... 07-10-2012, 11:43 AM
Dougie IMO, I would think that... 07-10-2012, 11:49 AM
P38 Yep theres plenty of muppets... 07-10-2012, 12:40 PM
Dougie Hunting pistols would be... 07-10-2012, 01:15 PM
Beavis I can't really think of any... 07-10-2012, 12:05 PM
Toby Shit happens that life.... 07-10-2012, 12:10 PM
Dougie Hmm this is true Toby, but my... 07-10-2012, 01:20 PM
Beavis I reckon it would be pretty... 07-10-2012, 12:55 PM
Toby I remember when we first... 07-10-2012, 01:19 PM
Toby I am a bit rough around the... 07-10-2012, 01:25 PM
compound One simple reason why hunting... 07-10-2012, 04:21 PM
P38 Police do not currently... 07-10-2012, 04:41 PM
7mmsaum Any one have there B-cat? 07-10-2012, 04:51 PM
Nzgunner I've been hunting pigs and... 07-10-2012, 08:16 PM
Bill999 a pistol would also be gold... 08-10-2012, 09:15 AM
Savage1 What I hate is that if you... 08-10-2012, 02:11 PM
P38 I dissagree. Hunting... 08-10-2012, 07:47 PM
Toby A bows not practical compared... 08-10-2012, 04:26 PM
Beavis I honestly can't see what... 08-10-2012, 06:24 PM
Savage1 I can see the harm, wounded... 09-10-2012, 12:53 AM
Beavis Personally I would consider a... 09-10-2012, 10:04 AM
Nzgunner +1 09-10-2012, 10:11 AM
Savage1 A person walking down the... 09-10-2012, 10:51 AM
199p I was having a look around... 08-10-2012, 09:24 PM
199p P.S if someone has the above... 08-10-2012, 09:30 PM
Toby But they are still giving... 09-10-2012, 08:45 AM
Toby Although what you saying is... 09-10-2012, 10:59 AM
Savage1 By allowing them to be used... 09-10-2012, 11:43 AM
Nzgunner Semi auto pistols that hold... 09-10-2012, 12:15 PM
Beavis +1 I don't see it as likely... 09-10-2012, 12:27 PM
P38 Savage I think youv'e missed... 09-10-2012, 05:17 PM
Toby Just because they are... 09-10-2012, 11:58 AM
Beavis I think savage is assuming... 09-10-2012, 12:07 PM
Savage1 You both make very good... 09-10-2012, 12:56 PM
Spanners PNZ doesnt want it.... Hell... 09-10-2012, 12:56 PM
P38 Your on to it Spanners. We... 09-10-2012, 05:25 PM
Beavis True? When I mentioned at our... 09-10-2012, 05:41 PM
P38 Yeah I heard that too. ... 09-10-2012, 05:47 PM
Toby Can you explain it from the... 09-10-2012, 01:06 PM
Savage1 By letting pistols be used... 09-10-2012, 02:04 PM
Beavis I think that would have more... 09-10-2012, 02:42 PM
Savage1 Yes but if criminals had... 09-10-2012, 03:19 PM
Beavis How does that relate to an... 09-10-2012, 04:59 PM
Towely I think you have gone way off... 09-10-2012, 05:28 PM
P38 Savage Criminals in NZ... 09-10-2012, 05:35 PM
Toby Thank you for that, I did... 09-10-2012, 03:32 PM
Beavis Yea that was my thinking.... 09-10-2012, 05:56 PM
Savage1 P38 you are a perfect example... 09-10-2012, 06:07 PM
Toby Are you in government by any... 09-10-2012, 06:14 PM
Beavis You can't do that effectively... 09-10-2012, 06:19 PM
Beavis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... 09-10-2012, 06:24 PM
Toby I cant believe I just watched... 09-10-2012, 06:29 PM
Beavis Not to mention a lot of... 09-10-2012, 06:33 PM
Toby Be good for bailing pigs,... 09-10-2012, 06:40 PM
NZHTR Real pig hunter wouldnt be... 09-10-2012, 09:13 PM
P38 Your not wrong Beavis. A... 09-10-2012, 09:01 PM
Savage1 I know pistols can be used in... 09-10-2012, 06:36 PM
Toby I think someone has watched... 09-10-2012, 06:38 PM
roig Personally I don't have a... 09-10-2012, 08:32 PM
Toby That can happen with a rifle? 09-10-2012, 09:04 PM
Toby Im not wanting to start a... 09-10-2012, 09:19 PM
Brian A few years ago 160 handguns... 09-10-2012, 09:40 PM
Toby Me and the bros used GC alot... 09-10-2012, 09:49 PM
Beavis I'd rather try and change... 25-10-2012, 10:13 AM
Spanners Any one have there B-cat? 27-10-2012, 08:06 PM
gimp Quote your source please.... 27-10-2012, 08:58 PM
Toby I thought the mericans liked... 27-10-2012, 09:04 PM
Tui4Me Sensitive types you pistol... 27-10-2012, 09:20 PM
P38 I would have thought Handgun... 27-10-2012, 09:32 PM
gimp Basically I think it's a... 27-10-2012, 09:44 PM
Spanners Any one have there B-cat? 27-10-2012, 10:04 PM
gimp I have no reason to believe... 27-10-2012, 10:09 PM
Kscott But it's the internet,... 28-10-2012, 10:28 AM
Mistral 4061 28-10-2012, 08:34 PM
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    Any one have there B-cat?

    Want to know if the security is exactly the same as E-cat ie, do you have to show an engineers certificate for your safe to hold pistols in?

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    Yes same rules so engineers cert needed if asked for.

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    Had my B for 17 years and never been asked for a cert. My B (and E) safe is the same old bank safe I started with.
    Gonna buy a new one eventually but fir now it works for me

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    Yep same rules for B & E safe. and yes I have been asked if my safe was certified.

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    Oh true, so do they check you every year onced your endorsed with a B or E?

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    Is it just a visit to the endorsed person or all of the refeeres aswell?

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    Just a visit to check the safe, confirm if it still complies, check the building, doors, windows, security, who lives at the premises and see if all complies. Write all this down on a sheet of paper to be filed and signed off. Then a check to see the serial numbers of the inspected firearms match their records...............often they dont. All this every 2 years but as stated above, B and E means a visit pretty much every year for one or the other.

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    Looks like its another case of every area does things their own way :|

    I've had my B for over 6 years and this year was the first time they came for an annual inspection. The vetting person had a list of my pistols to check the serial numbers for but not for my endorsed rifles.

    I've never been asked to show an engineers certificate but my safe was checked physically for compliance.

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    Are you allowed to hunt with pistols?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    Are you allowed to hunt with pistols?
    Unfortunately No!

    You an only use your pistol on an approved range.

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    Oh right, That's pretty dumb then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    Oh right, That's pretty dumb then
    Yep

    Hunting with a pistol is on my bucket list.

    At this stage a hunting trip to the USA is the only possible way I can see how it can be done.

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    What are the reason's why we cant hunt with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    What are the reason's why we cant hunt with them?
    IMO, I would think that hunting with pistols is a no-go because of the safety factor. Us Kiwi's seem to be pretty good at shooting eachother (people in same hunting party) with a long, bulky rifle. Imagine how easy it would be to swing around a four inch barrel and accidently put a bullet somewhere you didn't want one.

    I have been to the range with a few mates that had such poor weapon handling skills (with a rifle) that I refuse to shoot with them again. I would hate to see them with a pistol! They are still my mates but we won't play with rifles around each other. This also goes the same with a few friends with their E and B cats with pistols - I have only two people I trust with exceptional handling skills that I will go to the range for a pistol shoot with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougie View Post
    IMO, I would think that hunting with pistols is a no-go because of the safety factor. Us Kiwi's seem to be pretty good at shooting eachother (people in same hunting party) with a long, bulky rifle. Imagine how easy it would be to swing around a four inch barrel and accidently put a bullet somewhere you didn't want one.

    I have been to the range with a few mates that had such poor weapon handling skills (with a rifle) that I refuse to shoot with them again. I would hate to see them with a pistol! They are still my mates but we won't play with rifles around each other. This also goes the same with a few friends with their E and B cats with pistols - I have only two people I trust with exceptional handling skills that I will go to the range for a pistol shoot with.
    Yep theres plenty of muppets with firearms licences ... including B endorsements.

    I've personally seen at least a dozen people DQed while competing in pistol competition for poor safety. One guy shot the ground between his feet.

    I can't think of a valid reason why handgun hunting cannot be allowed in NZ.

    Dougie I wouldn't be hunting with a 4" barreled pistol. These are more suited to self defense and close quarter use.

    I'd be hunting with a 8" to 12" barreled "Hunting" pistol.

    BTW I can leagally hunt with a Rossi 44mag 16" BBL rifle, why could I not hunt with a Ruger Redhawk 44mag revolver with a 12" bbl?

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