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Hi Guys. Am setting up my old Baikal with a peep sight. Williams Savage 54 will work but struggeling to get my hands on one. Looking to get a longer sight plane. It's a camp rifle, so don't want to get to carried away. Something that will fit onto the chamber dove tail will work. Any ideas? A spare time project. Cheers
RIMFIRE GROOVE SIGHTS
I have bought a couple of sights off these guys in the past very nice. Not sure if they still do international quick email will tell.
If that's the incorrect groove size plenty on there to choose from get a gunsmith to tap the top.
Thanks Bundook. Looks very promising. Cheers
Just mucking around with the rifle really. Used wrong term, sight radius being correct. Aperture on dovetailed chamber will make a big difference to basic V well forward of chamber. It's a spare rifle, probably won't be used on an animal, but who knows. 7.62 x 39, so quite capable of 200 metres if necessary. Elevation adjustment, the foresight adjusts on the Baikal, but various aperture sights adjust for elevation as well. If I can get my hands on them. Also working on developing a 150 grn load for it, slowly getting there. It's just a spare time project, a camp rifle. You never know when some poor soul forgets his bolt
I dont know how much 'mucking' around with this you want to do, but I have seen a couple of these rechambered , one into 303, and another into 7.62x54R. I do not know if the x39 twist rate is similar to optimal rates for the two larger ones, but the 54R is not much faster , just the projectile is about twice the size (203gr doing about 2500 versus the 123gr doing 2300) and the 303 is somewhere in between so with the similar velicities twist rate should be acceptable I would have thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by RugerM77
The rimmed cartridges like the 303 and 7.62x54R are ideal shapes for this type of rear loading action.
Thanks, good info, but I'll stick with the original cartridge. Got a couple of 150 grn loads I'm working on. One .312 the other .308. I'll run them through a chrony and let you know. Finding time's the issue. Cheers.
The 7.62x39 is a great wee cartridge. And I like the ability o put the rifle IN the pack on the trip out if you have already shot enough meat etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by RugerM77
Thanks for the heads up. They do ship, sights on the way. Cheers
Hi, nice setup and most fun rifle in my safe, I also installed skinner sight but then front sight post was too short, but reasinably easy fix making a taller sight with a 1inch wood drill bit replacing factory post, a spot weld and some dremel work. Heat and blue in oil and shoots like a dream.
@Bundook. Sights arrived, now fitted. Rock solid, great bit of gear. Thanks again
@Hatz. Done and dusted now. Looks great. Going to range on Thursday. Hope I don't have issue with foresight, let you know. Cheers
bakail open sights have the rear mounted quite a way forward on barrel...it sits infront of most scopes...so fitting aperture on rear of dovetail will increase sight radiuos by 8-10" at least 6" anyway. really like the look of those skinners.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
nope...you HAVENT POSTED PHOTOS YET.......chop chop ol chum LOL
@Hatz, rifle got put on back burner for awhile but now back on bench. If you still have yours can you give me the height of your new foresight blade? From top of ramp to tip of blade. Will give me a baseline to work with. @Micky Duck, yep, photo for sure
Sorry dont have rifle anymore, just clamp/tie something onto barrel and zero through barrel and over clamped sight(Looking through peep) to get hight.
Yep, tried that, old eyes I think. Have made 3 different blade heights. Will post my desired height when finished mucking around. For future reference.
a meter ruler should be able to be sat in rear sight groove,lined up with guts of aperture and give you right height for blade....if you have ruler between the rear v and existing blade...the difference between it and aperture will/should be same needed for front blade..eg 2mm lower it rear need 2mm lower at front..sort of thing. looking forward to seeing your end result..my crude sights let me down today.
Thanks @Micky Duck. I'll give that a go. Got three blades made, hopefully one will be close.
Attachment 200602Attachment 200603 @Micky Duck photo as promised. For anyone attempting the same, this is what I used. Handy bit of metal lying around, angle grinder with cutting blade, bastard file, 2mm drill bit (several actually) and small bolt cutters. Blade measures .365 from top of foresight ramp to top of blade. I cut the existing spring in half with bolt cutters (really tough bugger side cutters not up to it). Placed half spring on front screw instead of rear. Cut blade to measure so sits flush on top of rear screw and rests against rear of front screw, Half spring produces sufficient tension so blade doesn't move. Cureently shoots 3" high at 100 meters with skinner sight as low as it will go. That was with factory ammo. I'll see what it does with my home loads before I muck around anymore.
hmmmm so you need bugger all more height to be just about ideal....wonder if you can somehow put a bead on top??? so you have a circular front to poke in guts of circular rear..... the hori in me says a shotgun bead threaded down into your blade..... you can get some very small beads that would be just about perfect,the drilling hole into blade top to thread it will be the challenge....
@Micky Duck. Probably a challenge to far, at least with my miniscule skill set. Currently groups at 3" with PRVI. Going to try my homeloads tomorrow (hopefully). See where they land at 100. Also going to have a go at dinner plate at 200 metres prone. Now that will be a challenge with the peep and that front blade. Wish me luck.
