I'm after my 1st ar10 , I was thinking the new dpms gen2 or armalite I'm after something like a recce type AR any help would be appreciated.
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I'm after my 1st ar10 , I was thinking the new dpms gen2 or armalite I'm after something like a recce type AR any help would be appreciated.
As not all ar10 stuff is as interchangeable as ar15 stuff it's probably worth thinking about what is going to be posable to get parts for down the track.
They also don't all take the same mags,not a big deal if your importing yourself and bringing a large pile of mags on at the same time, but a big issue for some as mags get lost and damaged-I sold my first ar10 years ago as mags were like rocking house shit.
Looking at the cost to buy here in NZ at $3k, v import from the USA, I'd suggest considering getting the parts via Brownells. As per res from reading up on AR10s manufacturers like say Windham say their AR10 isnt "standard". So far it looks like the DPMS is worth considering from that aspect, unless anyone else says differently? Let me/us know how you get on as I am considering doing the same thing in the future.
I have a RRA AR10 LAR and at the time compared the RRA alongside the DPMS the RRA won hands down, just don't get to use it that much.
Shoots bloody great, bit on the heavy side though.
Yeah Steven that's why I was looking at the new dmps gen 2 they are supposedly interchangeable with the ar15 platform except the bolt & barrel. As well as they use magpul mags not the fn m14 mags.Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
I looked into the RRA they seemed to be well made and have a reputation for good accuracy, but as you say heavy.
Get a dpms based gun. At least it has some partz commonality. Most mfgs use the dpms gen 1 pattern.
I am in exactly the same boat as the OP.
I'm settling on either the:
1) Ruger SR-762
2) RRA LAR-8 Elite Operator
3) DPMS Gen II Recon
4) Make my own
I'm leaning towards the Ruger SR-762 due to the gas piston design and lower recoil. Close second is the RRA. Weight is good on them all at around 8.5 pounds. Trigger is a bit funny but fixable.
Cheers
Greenie
what mags does the Ruger take?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenie
Comes with (Depends on who's selling it) 3x20 rounds PMAG mags, though I have seen some using the DPMS straight mags.Quote:
Originally Posted by von tempsky fan
Depends a bit on what barrel you want, too. Someone was saying the blast from the shorter 16 inch barrels is a lot more than say the 20's. Gingo's I haven't done this for 20 years so I'm a bit of a noob.
The other one I looked at was the RRA LAR-8 Standard Operator with the 20 inch barrel.
What's the consensus of opinion re the "Blast noise levels" short vs longer barrel guys?
Cheers
Greenie
I'm doing the same, have import permits submitted to build up an AR10 from DPMS parts from Brownells.
Should be approved in around 8 months. :pissed off:
LoL, just in time to hand down to Sam :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
"Get a dpms based gun" agree here for AR10s if only for ease of getting DPMS style parts from say Brownells. I am a big fan of KISS, keep is simple and stupid. Ive been stuck before with no access to spares parts (think Audi) and had to wait typically 2 months for bits, which when its 6months between warrants is just no fun.
regards
After looking further into the Ruger SR-762, I think I'll give it a miss.
Looks like I'm heading towards the: RRA LAR-8 Elite Operator with the 16 inch barrel at 9.1 pounds is the one, the standard Operator is a 20 inch barrel and another pound heavier at 10.1 pounds..any thought on barrel and weight guys?
Question: What is with the increased noise from shorter barrels? Is it much louder and how do you lower it a bit without a suppressor?
Cheers
What are you using it for?
Higher pressure at moment of uncorking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenie
Sent from my XT535
General all rounder.Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
I'm joining the Auckland services rifle association and they shoot Clevedon and Waiuku ranges 1-300 yards
I'll more than likely do some goat shooting only every now and again for pest control.
.308 for fun factor with low frequency of shooting (According to the wife)
Most likely
Cheers
What are you using it for?
To me a 16inch barrel almost suggests short range in which case a Blackout upper on an AR15 maybe the lighter/better option?
If you want the legs of the 308 then really its way heavier and maybe even the 24inch barrel, I wouldnt want to lug that beasty about though.
ASRA have a 30 cal only shoot on the 26th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenie
WSRA (wellington) would normally shoot M16A2 (20inch barrel) or M4 clone (16inch barrel) AR15s, which is why I am getting one. Honestly from shooting a 303 at 100m and from watching ppl shoot semi-auto 308s v ar15s I wouldn't try and compete with one in service rifle. Big, heavy and slow with heaps of recoil, v small, light and fast and almost no recoil.
Im not a hunter so I cant advise on what to shoot goats with, but weight is a bugger.
Yeah, I've tried a few ASRA shoots with a 20" .308 semi and yep, muzzle lift was a pain.
80-90 rounds of .308 ain't cheap either, even when reloading, assuming you can find all the brass.
It rocks on the goats, pigs and turkeys though. Especially the 155gn Amaxes.
All of my ASRA shoots are with a .308 (of sorts) and a 16" barrel. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
Thought it was .310 or .311 with a little bitty witty soviet case.
;)
Bah! It's all I have since I sold my M305... Need those winning numbers to come up and then it'll be FN central.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
Yeah...I had a quick shoot with an AR15 and if felt like a pop gun sort of.Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
BTW, who sells the Colt branded AR15 in NZ? Particularly the LR6920
Delta Sector does or did, he is going through troubles atm though so I have heard.
After going through all of this I ended up with a DPMS pattern gun, just far more accessories are available for them. As for Service Rifle even out to 500 the 223 seems to be able to hold its own against the 308.
yeah mate I have emailed delta sector and target sports it's been 3 days and no response:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Lol that isn't uncommon. Contact digit he has some lined up.Quote:
Originally Posted by von tempsky fan
When you say he has some lined up, you mean LR6920's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis