Thread: Ar15 manufacture

Hi! Does anyone know how makes the chinese ar15s from guncity? Called CJA 223. they said its not norinco when i brought it. Am really impressed with how accurate it is. Tight 1 inch groups at 50 meters with an eotech 512.

I was told that they are made with a Norinco lower, and an American (Bushmaster/DPMS) upper? But who cares as long as it shoots well and is Milspec so you can interchange parts.

kj

The finish on the uppers I've seen is way way worse than any US made upper I've seen

China Jin'g An (CJA) is an supplier/exporter of (typically) agricultural equipment and have also facilitated the export of firearms to the US, Canada and NZ including SKS, Type 56, M305 and now knock-off AR15's. The arms themselves are made by Norinco.

Google is still my friend.

Ray.

They are Norinco's. They sell in Canada for around $CAD600 and are good guns for the money. Definitely not worth $2k.

are the 1k cad nea's worth 2nzd?
the wyndham arms for 2300 will put a fair boot up the cja and the nea.
the real question is, who will be the first to hit 1500 retail?
greg

Yea they are expensive. Typical gun city tho Give it a couple of years and they will be 1000 bucks. Finish is definitly crap but i still love it. Thanks for the answers guys! Much appreciated

Originally Posted by greghud

the wyndham arms for 2300 will put a fair boot up the cja and the nea.

Yes, I expect the build quality of the Windham offerings will be hard to beat for under 2.5k. A lot of Bushmaster experience in that factory.

Ray.

The NEA aren't to bad overall but there triggers are awful!

Who is selling Windham?

I'd rather see more higher end offerings than another bottom tier bargain brand

Originally Posted by gimp

I'd rather see more higher end offerings than another bottom tier bargain brand

You might like Gucci gear but most in NZ are too tight to buy at $2500 let alone something topend
Just no market

aparently H&F are going to do the wyndam

Originally Posted by greghud

are the 1k cad nea's worth 2nzd?
the wyndham arms for 2300 will put a fair boot up the cja and the nea.
the real question is, who will be the first to hit 1500 retail?
greg

Yip, I know the cost price for them and Digit isn't making all that much off them. They are $1K in CAD sure, but it costs money to send stuff, then there is gst, customs fees, brokerage fees etc they are priced honestly. Is a bottom of the barrel rifle in the USA worth $2.5-$3K? I don't know. But with US export regulations the way they are we will not see many "high speed"brands here anytime soon on A cat (Colt, BCM, LMT, Spikes, etc unless they make export compliant models. LMT does.) Bushmaster isn't exactly a yard stick of quality, but inital reports suggest the Whindham guns are better. Would be cool if H&K made an A cat MR223 and 762. Would probably be $rape though. Kiwi's don't exactly buy AR's for "serious social purposes", for what we generally use them for, what is available is sufficent. My non-milspec RRA has never skipped a beat the whole time I've had it. Never been cleaned, had it filthy as hell with foreign debris, including inside the reciever and never had an issue. Very happy with it. Honestly haven't shot my NEA all that much. Hammils is meant to be carrying the Whindham guns gimp.

Someone ought to get A-Cat Sig 556s in or something.

FWIW the NEA's are NZ 3k in South Africa where they use a wholesale/retail system. The latest generation NEA's are a step above the bushmasters Ive looked at. Our wholesale margin as Beavis has said is a lot less than most would think.

Never laid eyes on a Wyndham so cant comment I imagine they will be a nice gun for the price - Good on Hamills. Gun City are still raping NZers for the Norincos. In Canada they wholesale for $CAD450. Theres a lot room for them to move yet and I expect they will once forced

Regardless the more AR's in NZ the better. I dont care who brings them in - we need to flood the market to ensure the survival as a sporting platform. Price is key for this to happen. The market for 3K+ AR's is incredibly small. The market for sub 2K AR's is huge - we cant get enough to satisfy demand.

If you want Sig's we can bring them in no problem - on E-Cat. We've tried on A but no luck. We have some Sig 522's lined up on E - just waiting to hear back on the whole hand in side of things as its gone pear shaped with the recent legal cases against NZ police at the moment.