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Whats everyones go to suppressor for an ar15? I have a NEA 14.5" carbine which will need a muzzle forward can. I am considering a waitaki engineering suppressor or a DPT with a stainless steel baffle. Any feedback from the above? Is an adjustable gas block worth while doing also?
Cheers
I run the DPT muzzle forward can on my NEA, good sound suppression and cheap too.
Make sure you get a properly proportioned sized suppressor for an AR15, they need space for the expanding gas or else you will experience excessive gas blow back out of the chamber when it cycles. An adjustable gas block will help with bolt speed control when it cycles with the extra gas pressure but the right sized suppressor is the most important step.
How do you work out how big they need to be?
You ring Darren at DPT :D Nice chapQuote:
Originally Posted by matto1234
I have already spoken to darren this morning, he did not specify different sizes just muzzle forward and overbarrel which the latter won't fit. Cheers
Check with the manufacturer and advised them of the application. Waitaki make them for AR15's so they are probably designed to suit that application.
I fitted an old model DPT, not the current modular, to mine with an adjustable gas block and it was a pig for blowing shit in your face and eyes. Switched to an ODL and it's a whole different gun as this brand was made to suit the AR.
There is an ASE for sale.
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...ressors-25938/
Depends on volume of shooting - for a hunting rifle DPT for rapid Waitaki - I have both the waitkai worked well on my NEA 14.5"
and yes get an adjustable gas block for all thing suppressed
What was the best for noise? It will mainly be a hunting rifle but may have the odd time where 20 or 30 rounds go quickly like at turkeys etc
As has been said, an adjustable gas block is a big plus with any can.
Odl is the best can I have used on a ar by far-but the price is a bit eye watering unless you come across one second hand.
On a hunting rifle I would pick a dpt out of the two options you listed, I'm very impressed with my waitaki after a few cases of ammo through it but it's heavy
The waitaki is a 100g heavier , is that the only downside? I will take my rifle in and see if a grub screw can be fitted in the block. Cheers
that about sums it up, both have a lot more blowback than the odl but I couldn't say what is worse and to my ear they both sound about the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by matto1234
at the end of the day I think you would be happy with either paired with an adjustable gas system(home done with a grub screw is just fine) but 100g is a real about of weight to be talking about if all else is equal-espeasally on the end of your barrel
Fair call about the weight on the end and for the sake of 50 bucks i think id rather have the dpt so i can clean it and add baffles
I've got a Waitaki on my Colt carbine, no adjust gas block and works great never had any blowback...
I think the DPT is about 300g once you get the model with the stainless barrel so only 50g lighter than the Waitaki. Both are good choices.
Speaking of NEA, does anyone know how to get the rail off? ive tried twisting it counter clockwise (advised by NEA) and didnt work. maybe just real bugged up with grease or something?
I've not long had a core15 Magpul that's got a 16" barrel & have gone with a Gunworks 41mm dia suppressor that's 4" forward & about 7" back from the end of the barrel (270mm O/A. you can have it custom made for you rifle) & have found it great to use compared to suffering from unsuppressed muzzle blast. For $340 it's very competatively priced & had great service.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by matto1234
I will follow this with interest as I want one for my AR15. Forward of the barrel will be quieter but longer, poorer balanced and more un-wieldy. There is a gas buster charging handle for AR15s that is supposed to stop the blow back, but I have not tried it.
lots of wd40?Quote:
Originally Posted by IngloriousFame
they work ok but no better than just building up the same area of the charging handle with gasket siliconeQuote:
Originally Posted by steven
MAE has a few muzzle forward options. One is a light weight, full steel, muzzle forward unit. quieter than the gunworks, dpt and waitaki i have tried
My DPT modular 7mm/.277 can and my DPT .223 AR (steel baffle) can.
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Now we are making the decision difficult, do you have a link for the supressor you mention?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcche171
Side by side comparison, best lightweight suppressor i've seen is the Sonic 45. Built similar to the dpt but has steel baffel inserts so doesn't get the wear on the baffles like my DPT.
My mates 30cal sonic was quieter on my .223 than my .22cal DPT. Only downside is the sonic 45 only comes in 1/2 x 20, the sonic 35 comes in 1/2 x 28
Sonic 45 Suppressor – The Gun Shop Motueka
Too many choices , might have a measure up and see if i can get an over barrel to fit.
Another big fan of the Waitaki here.
The mae is 50mm longer than the waitaki and dpt so maybe i wont go that way
Sonic is 16.8 ounces or 476 gr. dpt standard is 260 grams, maybe just around 315 grams with a stainless steel blast baffle. Note quite punching in the same category.... Had 4 extra baffles to the stainless version and it still weight only 423 gr and should reduce sound way better than the sonic...
+1 Waitaki. Slightly heavier, but will last a lifetime
Not in the same weight category, but are both around the same price range and your suggestion to add $180 of baffles to the DPT to "possibly" be better than the sonic puts it way out of range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
And 200g is nothing to me
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Shit that thing looks huge?
I have abused my waitaki and still going strong.
You are still going to use hearing protection though for mag dumping? For out right sound suppression it's very hard to go past ASE but they are heavy, however if you were going to be doing competitive shooting you wouldn't run a suppressor and for shooting turkeys the extra weight doesn't make you miss.
Think i will go waitaki , will be wearing hearing protection when not in the bush
HowdyQuote:
Originally Posted by IngloriousFame
Remove the cap screws,turn it BY HAND until it stops and then pull forward.Might need a tap with a rubber/plastic mallet.
I am running a 22mag MAE can on a 20 inche AR15 , and its not bad , ( its off my hornet ) as a temp measure , i am thing of getting the 223 model its a little longer than the 22mag 6.5 inche jobbie .
Not noticed any gas blow back yet .
I do how ever wish MAE would make a rachet locking version like AAC or ODL etc , that mounts on to a muzzle attachment , and locks in place .
Later Chris
I always say
Cheap and light, no rapid fire - DPT
Cheapish, rapid fire, but heavy - MAE or ASE
Light, Rapid fire and you have money - ODL
I upgraded to ODL and wouldn't go back.
Ive got the dpt on my 300blk ar. Works sweet. Mostly shooting subs through it though
