Thread: Baikal rail issue

Originally Posted by gadgetman

First I would remove scope and rings and sight along the groove in the rail to the end of the barrel to see if the end of the barrel is tending off to one side. I have a rifle that has this issue and I could not alter the alignment of the rail to the barrel/action. I fixed it by using Burris rings with the offset inserts to give me windage rather than elevation. Previously it had Leupold quick release rings that would change POI every time the pressure on the lever changed. As pointed out earlier there may be a bit of fudge room with your current rings not being identical to allow some gain by swapping back/front and turning them around.

Not easy to get a sight along like that when you half blind and using glasses :-(

OK
I cannot not flip the rail to rear as the recoil stud wont work/align
I have shifted it back and used the recoil pin that I was no using before
No diff
Changed rings - front to rear and left to right
No diff

Think I will go back to the 243 and try and get a better quality rail like the one in 1st post 2nd & 3rd pic

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Not easy to get a sight along like that when you half blind and using glasses :-(

OK
I cannot not flip the rail to rear as the recoil stud wont work/align
I have shifted it back and used the recoil pin that I was no using before
No diff
Changed rings - front to rear and left to right
No diff

Think I will go back to the 243 and try and get a better quality rail like the one in 1st post 2nd & 3rd pic

The Burris rings will probably be your best bet.

Have a couple of sets of those base adapters that take Weaver type rings, they do work correctly, will send to you to play with.

left field thought here.....will a DIFFERENT scope line up correctly using the base you have on rifle??????
we use the 2nd mount Tim has shown and it works fine n dandy.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

left field thought here.....will a DIFFERENT scope line up correctly using the base you have on rifle??????
we use the 2nd mount Tim has shown and it works fine n dandy.

No - had same issue
Its now in the bin !!
The rail not the rifle

Sighted in a 243 and 22
Using the QD - worked good and both returned to Zero when swapped back and forth - also sighted .22 in for Subsonic and High V

Will get a descent Picatinny rail out of Russia/East Europe - one designed pacifically for the Baikal

Originally Posted by Sarvo

No - had same issue
Its now in the bin !!
The rail not the rifle

Sighted in a 243 and 22
Using the QD - worked good and both returned to Zero when swapped back and forth - also sighted .22 in for Subsonic and High V

Will get a descent Picatinny rail out of Russia/East Europe - one designed pacifically for the Baikal

To me brutally honest, probably easier to get it drilled and tapped and bolt a rail directly to the top. I could probably find someone in Blenheim that can help....Or I have some mounts here that may help if you have a inch tube.....

Originally Posted by timattalon

To me brutally honest, probably easier to get it drilled and tapped and bolt a rail directly to the top. I could probably find someone in Blenheim that can help....Or I have some mounts here that may help if you have a inch tube.....

Yes - a rail fixed directly on
You thinking of the Bro for that job ??
Sounds like a pretty clever guy

Originally Posted by Sarvo

Yes - a rail fixed directly on
You thinking of the Bro for that job ??
Sounds like a pretty clever guy

I wish, No. He does not have the gear for that task, but he does know a gunsmith there who does that stuff for him.....

I had a 308 Baikal many moons ago, and asked the local gunsmith to fit a picatinny rail as the dovetail was too short for the scope I wanted to mount. To keep it nice and low he machined off the dovetail and a bit lower again - theres plenty of meat there to do it. Then he fitted a picatinny base on top, cantilevered about 40mm in front of the action. He suggested at the time, that if I wanted to fit a larger scope, or make it even stronger, he could machine the underside of a picattinny rail so that it had a "block" right out at the end of the cantilever, that would extend down to the barrel, and could have another mounting screw in to the barrel. That rifle was bloody accurate!

Best scope rail I have found is Weaver TO-10 intended for Winchester 9422 lever action.

It is very low profile and converts 3/8 dovetail to standard Weaver.

As the Baikal is has a 11mm dovetail I used a spacer on each side.

The spacer is the stainless steel strips you get with windsreen wiper blades.

Its a bit brutal but with the barrel off the action fit a spacer into each side of the TO-10 adapter and slide it onto the barrel dovetail, now the fun bit, you hammer the adapter until it bottoms out at the front of the dovetail. Hack saw and file the surplus off level with the breech face.

Looks very tidy, as low as possible and is super durable, oh and cheap.