Thread: Best AR platform .22 ????

Originally Posted by Stampy1

So everyone has got a little excited back to my original question tippmann is the best ???

Tippmann all the way dude

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

I have to awnser that - negativity like that do we need it no we dont - so just as you say look once in a blue moon - my point is we live as firearm owners in an age where we are fighting for the right to have them - the anti firearm brigade is exceptionally strong and any excuse we are the losers- why give them ammunition against us - just because its a .22 does not mean anything to them - its a military style semi auto in their eyes - no matter how functional accurate or fun to use - why give them any excuse to have a case against us as a legitimate firearm user - we dont need it we have an uphill battle as it is -make absolutely no mistake about that

Dude I don't even feel like you are intelligent or reasonable enough to have a conversation with, you are aren't fighting for the right to have them with an attitude like that. Like has already said you are a cock and firearm owners like you are the reason it is getting harder and harder to get access to firearms, if all firearm owners stood together in 2019 we may not be in the situation we are in now, but people like you were like nah as long as I can keep mah bolt action 22 screw everyone else

Originally Posted by Howa1500

Dude I don't even feel like you are intelligent or reasonable enough to have a conversation with, you are aren't fighting for the right to have them with an attitude like that. Like has already said you are a cock and firearm owners like you are the reason it is getting harder and harder to get access to firearms, if all firearm owners stood together in 2019 we may not be in the situation we are in now, but people like you were like nah as long as I can keep mah bolt action 22 screw everyone else

you are totally and utterly incorrect - I fought damn hard back then to keep my semiauto centerfire and abhor the way it all went - my point which seems to have been completely missed in calling me names is that the anti gun lobby want all semi autos banned - we cannot give them traction or ammunition and we dont as a group stick up for ourselves - the very low no of submissions is not going to do our cause any good - as I said read their propaganda and weep - the last thing we need is photos of kids with AR15 lookalikes and I will stand by that

well Howa 1500 awnser me this why when we have any number of really good semi auto 22 rifles such as Volquartson - Bergara - Ruger 10/22 target models -CZ all accurate proven why would someone buy a 22.cal semi auto copy of an AK47 or a German submachine gun or an AR15 its because of what they look like that seems to be about all - do we need them- not really considering what we can get - the Tippmans I will exclude they seem to be practical and accurate - or do I lack some kind of inner Rambo urge

Originally Posted by Stampy1

So everyone has got a little excited back to my original question tippmann is the best ???

Tippmann is very good. If you like something a little heavier then the Kriss Defiance is also very good but does have a reputation for a breaking firing pin issue (easily solved with a titanium replacement).

I fail to understand the relevance of "why do we need them" because I want to and it looks cool is enough. But it's a rifle that's highly customisable to the user, whether this be changing the stock or trigger, easy mounting of accessories such as lights or thermals for night shooting, rifles such as the Tippmann can have the barrel replaced for increased accuracy. If you want to teach a kid to shoot you can just reduce the length of the stock. oh and yeah, because people want to buy it, what is the problem with this simple statement? We should be attempting to normalize the absolute shit out of this kind of stuff, instead you're like no the people who already want to take all my shit won't if I don't buy a specific type of firearm because it has a scary shape.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

well Howa 1500 awnser me this why when we have any number of really good semi auto 22 rifles such as Volquartson - Bergara - Ruger 10/22 target models -CZ all accurate proven why would someone buy a 22.cal semi auto copy of an AK47 or a German submachine gun or an AR15 its because of what they look like that seems to be about all - do we need them- not really considering what we can get - the Tippmans I will exclude they seem to be practical and accurate - or do I lack some kind of inner Rambo urge

Also, saying it's ok for me to buy a Tippmann but not anything else is absolutely hilarious, can I buy a M&P if I'm on a budget or want a gun that's super lightweight, or is that not ok?

Originally Posted by Howa1500

Also, saying it's ok for me to buy a Tippmann but not anything else is absolutely hilarious, can I buy a M&P if I'm on a budget or want a gun that's super lightweight, or is that not ok?

Don’t argue with an idiot… they will just bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

Tippmann all the way. I had a Kriss and the barrel was fucked from new luckily the upper was replaced under warranty but that was fucked as well and Grant (the NZ agent) would not fix it.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

well Howa 1500 awnser me this why when we have any number of really good semi auto 22 rifles such as Volquartson - Bergara - Ruger 10/22 target models -CZ all accurate proven why would someone buy a 22.cal semi auto copy of an AK47 or a German submachine gun or an AR15 its because of what they look like that seems to be about all - do we need them- not really considering what we can get - the Tippmans I will exclude they seem to be practical and accurate - or do I lack some kind of inner Rambo urge

To put fuel on this bun fight fire: After mulling over it I can see both points of view BUT if the anti-gun nut types get onto wanting to ban Tipperman types rifles and by not purchasing them they importers stop bringing them into the country then it plays into the hands of anti-gun nuts hands - who will then target 10-22s etc.

Make sense?
It does to me - after a wine!

I had a dedicated CMMG AR 22 I surrendered in 2019.
Who was to know I could have kept the bolt, barrel, handguard and mags to fit to a UTAS 556 and still have a functioning legal gun?

IMO

Pros for AR based 22 platform.
Adjustable stock allows smaller framed humans (ie kids) correct length of pull without taking a hacksaw to the stock.
Other ergonomics are well though out.
Big easy to handle, load and not lose magazines. Contrast that to fiddly sharped edged lips 10/22 mags.
Lots of aftermarket parts, mounts etc to fit.
Kids show an interest in shooting one cos of 'cool' factor.
Get the fudds stirred up.

Cons.
Heavy, with rear bias. So kids usually need to shoot off bipod/rest.
Alloy handguards suck in cold weather.
Get the fudds stirred up.

Conclusion. Get a Tippman. It legal to own one.

i kept my cmmg bolt and barrel, its the best thing ever in the ar15 platform, i can put it in the kriss upper, and can shoot a nordic upper .as well as the ruger barrel just buy a cheap one and chop it shorter but still legal though, the kriss dosent end there. yep the tippman is the best in terms of reliability out of others i had like the smiths, hk ect.

Originally Posted by holdover

i kept my cmmg bolt and barrel, its the best thing ever in the ar15 platform, i can put it in the kriss upper, and can shoot a nordic upper .as well as the ruger barrel just buy a cheap one and chop it shorter but still legal though, the kriss dosent end there. yep the tippman is the best in terms of reliability out of others i had like the smiths, hk ect.

You aren't making me feel any better!

What's people's opinion of the TAC R1 with the trigger upgrade?
Only ask as they tend to be significantly cheaper than the tippmann.

No. Just No.