Opinions please excluding Leupold.
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Opinions please excluding Leupold.
zeiss conquest HD was pretty bloody awesome when i looked through one, 3-15x42 form memory. might be just under $1500
Can you get your hands on a vortex scope? Same glass as nightforce. I know nothing so il shudup :)
Zeiss HD and Vortex is what i have come up with too. But they all look good in the middle of the day watchn cars go by the local store. I wonder if H&F will have late night shopping for xmas so i can try them out?
Meopta
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I have hear really good things about these.
vortex over ziess for better clicky bits.
I was gonna say ziess too, but yea vortex is more reliable. Bushy Elite is good.
I thought the question was low light ability , not clicky bits .
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Dont need clickey bits on this one just some sort of ballistic plex it will be for a short suppressed 308. im getting a pst for the rum. Im having a clearance sale then restocking the cabinet
iv got a zeiss hd5 3-15x42, all my shots are right on dark/crack of dawn, its a bloody awesome scope.
Bushy elite is a real good light catcher.you can get a good bushy under $1500 and have some change.............you have a bad experience with loupy pete?
I've been giving my Vortex Viper a serious workout over the last month, with a number of evening/night trips after wallabies. Plenty of shots in fading light and a lot more under spotlight. Odd bout of rain, snow or drizzle just to keep it interesting. I can't recall any instances where I could I.D. a roo (or possible roo) with my eyes or binos, when I wasn't able to find and get a clear enough picture to confirm or discard it through the scope.
It has been very very nice under the spotlight, allowing me to make definite ID's at reasonable distances at night when my brother has been unable to do so with his Vortex Diamondback. (which also has good glass and features for its price point) Or in shadowy patches during the day when the binos have raised my suspicions, but it wasn't until I scoped it up that I could confirm a roo.
Bottom line - I'm very happy with my Vortex, and while it is my first decent scope so I don't have much to compare it to, it's definitely not sub-standard glass.
Mine is the Viper HS LR 4-16x44 with Dead-hold BDC
That is great news :) i have one on the way but not lr as i wanted turret caps.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrikerNZ
Thanks for the first hand experience guys.
Neckshot i exclude leupold because i have a mk4 4.5-14x40 LR with the turret caps and the glass in that is f$&?@" shit. And i have had bx3 binos beside my viper hd and they are also shit. Maybe vx6 might be good i havent looked into them.
I thought my viper pst had alright glass, until i looked through an acog. So i bought a couple of them and now im just dissapointed whenever i look through the vortex. Two different types of scopes i know but my money will probably be going on the accupoint range if i was in the market for another big scope.
Low light performance and European scopes go hand in hand . American customers often have different requirements of their scopes compared to the European customers . Low light ability is very high on the European requirement list ,but not so much on the Americans, often because of their season laws and hours of allowable shooting .
Scopes that are aimed at the American market often out perform all others in a number of factors and are very good scopes , but if you really want low light performance , look towards Europe .
Ken
Ha ha ha ha.
You bought a military scope and expected good glass:rolleyes:
Whatever you get get a 50mm plus if low light performance is a priority. Even relatively crap scopes can do well if the objective is big enough.
Have you used an s+b? Military scopes with some if the best glass available.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
That's a bugger mate,hope your scope selection works out for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by username
That's because its a mark 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by username
Vx3 has better glass.
And vx6 better again
No i haven't, i might have looked threw one of kiwi Gregs but not at low light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cartman
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I figured the mk4 and vx3 must have had the same glass. Wrong!!!
I will check out the euro scopes. But i cant justify Swaros Leica and S&B. maybe if i hunted every week. I wish!
Worst case scenario i end up with vortex viper which i know are "good" but i will check out ziess, minox etc
Cheers
Pete
And vx6
I guess i should clarify my previous post for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Acog= superb glass
Viper pst= poor in comparison
As said, different types of scopes for different purposes but if you own both you will see why i shudder when i use the vortex. Damn good glass! Damn you to hell! I still like the vortex mrad reticle though and the feel and accuracy of the "clicky bits" on the viper. I despise the way you set zeros on the vortex, 3 fricken screws to unwind to lift the turret and set it!? Give me lift up and set turrets anyday.
Damn, posted on the wrong thread....
@Moahunter
Delta seem pretty good in low light.