I started with a cheap range finder and binos,Traded up to pair of swaro 8.5x42s and a Leica 1600b, was happy as with this combo, Then decided the Leica 10x42 geovids would b a good idea, only down side I found with these was the custom billistic curves stoped at 1000 yds which was good until I started to stretch the barrel and shoot out to a bit further so I now have the 10x42s and a sig 2400 which covers all the bases
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