Thread: Brand new Hatsan shotgun exploded in my face

Try talking to the opposition gun shop you might get some good ideas from them.

Get something on the books with acc too because your ear won't get any better.

So it’s gone off before the boot closed ? It looks like the firing pin has struck it diagonally almost? Like it has hit it during the cycling that’s a major pretty lucky you weren’t a lefty shooting a right handed gun may have being far worse

Originally Posted by Kelton

So it’s gone off before the boot closed ? It looks like the firing pin has struck it diagonally almost? Like it has hit it during the cycling that’s a major pretty lucky you weren’t a lefty shooting a right handed gun may have being far worse

Very lucky indeed.
The bolt looked like it was all the way forward and closed but it obviously wasn't locked. When I pulled the trigger it fired the shell regardless which should not be possible in a modern gun.

The gun needs to be examined and a report produced before it gets into the hands of the dealer/importer. There are potential mechanical failures that could have caused this. I have done several such reports over the years on various firearms. PM me.

I have a firearm accident related hearing loss and ACC declined me too. Same reason given.

The ringing hasn't stopped or improved at all in the 5 years since.

Originally Posted by Mintie

I have a firearm accident related hearing loss and ACC declined me too. Same reason given.

The ringing hasn't stopped or improved at all in the 5 years since.

ACC have really changed their attitude on hearing loss, had no problem 40 years ago getting my claim excepted plus re-assessments every 10 years. Now suddenly don't want to look back at my past records, has become 84% hereditary, 16% damage. Case manager is always on "stress leave," they rely on you finally giving up.

Outdoorsports NZ are the Hatsan/Escort importer.

https://www.outdoorsportsnz.com/our-...cort-shotguns/

Any reputable shop should not hesitate to assist. After all its there reputation. Maybe the gun has been parallel imported etc. And they maybe out of there rights to import it etc. Had you injured yourself seriously then they would be up for a investigation from police. Of they are un cooperative then just name and shame them. They would lose more than 700 of businesses thru social media post ls alone.

It is there best interest to help you out. I would contact the importer direct. But like others have said hold on to the gun.

For yr own peace of mind in the future.Save up and buy a good s/s or o/u.Hope yr hearing survives ok.

What are you wanting as an outcome from store? Replacement? Refund? Something else in response to injury?

Be an interesting situation to follow

The danger of cheap Escorts!

Originally Posted by caberslash

The danger of cheap Escorts!

Fortunately they don't fit me at all. Never had problems with Stoeger though, although they seem to be a US company which makes their shotguns in Turkey.

Purchasers should realise that generally, you get what you pay for. Turkish guns are cheap. Having said that, they are much better now than they used to be 20 years ago when the Turks were just getting into the international market. Parts breakages were common then due to poor metal choice but they seem to be on top of it now. Most of their guns are based on proven designs (Beretta, Benelli, etc) and generally display good quality machining, but no gun should be sold that is unsafe to use.

The comments about the Escorts are quite appropriate! When I was in business I refused to work on Escort shotguns after repairing a few. I don't have any experience of the other variety!

Great first thread.
Has the retailer shown you the email from the Importer/Distributer to prove that it does have to be dealt with through the dealer?

One consideration is that that part of it could be genuine, in many transactional situations the buck stops with the party that receives the money for the product/service. For example when it comes to couriers, if you are expecting a bought parcel and it doesn't arrive, by rights the issue should be taken up with the sender of the parcel as they were the one you paid for the product. They had the responsibility to ensure delivery of the product and it is therefore their issue to raise with the courier who the sender chose and paid to deliver the product. The courier has no real direct liability to you the receiver of the parcel because you never paid the courier directly for their service.

Given the behaviors of the dealer thus far against the gravity of what has happened however, it would be advisable to restrict all communication to written only.
It doesn't seem unreasonable to ask that the importer be copied in on the communication unless the dealer and/or importer can provide a robust reason to the contrary.