Thread: Browning X bolt Hells Canyon Speed

Originally Posted by R93

If you don't mind me asking what projectiles are you using and what velocities are you achieving.

I was hoping to get the 135 berger or 140 elite hunter around 3100 without much fuss in a 24inchish barrel.
Do you think this is possible or are all the numbers I have read exaggerated?

I mangaged 3150 with 130 in my 65 06 but not the best chrono giving those results.

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I think 3100fps would be achievable with the 135 Berger and a 24" barrel. My 260Imp (24.5" barrel) got to 3099 average with 129gr LRAB, pressure signs just showing.

Originally Posted by Mathias

I think 3100fps would be achievable with the 135 Berger and a 24" barrel. My 260Imp (24.5" barrel) got to 3099 average with 129gr LRAB, pressure signs just showing.

Yup my Ackley has been up there as well but case life was pretty bad in my rifle.

I have good case life and accuracy at 2950ish with the 130 berger vld.

I don't want it to be a stretch. I would like to do it comfortably.
I might even stick with the 130vld as it has performed really well in the 260 on animals so far.

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Originally Posted by R93

Yup my Ackley has been up there as well but case life was pretty bad in my rifle.

I have good case life and accuracy at 2950ish with the 130 berger vld.

I don't want it to be a stretch. I would like to do it comfortably.
I might even stick with the 130vld as it has performed really well in the 260 on animals so far.

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Them 130s are good aye. I was just wondering what was going on here. I recall you said you'd never need another rifle other than the Blaser.......

Originally Posted by Gibo

Them 130s are good aye. I was just wondering what was going on here. I recall you said you'd never need another rifle other than the Blaser.......

They seem to be working really good so far.
Everything has been bang flop but I have personally only shot 1 or 2 out of say a dozen animals with them. That is why I want another rifle so I don't have to let other people use mine.

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Originally Posted by R93

They seem to be working really good so far.
Everything has been bang flop but I have personally only shot 1 or 2 out of say a dozen animals with them. That is why I want another rifle so I don't have to let other people use mine.

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I was in this exact spot 4 years ago,
Jumped all over the show and then settled on 260 sako, was high use 900 animals in 3 years so I reckon your cal is pretty bang on.
The biggest issue you'll find is scope choice with multiple users rather than the cal or platform
I learnt the hard way that some people just cant get picture through some scopes,
Swaro Z5 was the worst, hope that helps ya.


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Originally Posted by BRADS

I was in this exact spot 4 years ago,
Jumped all over the show and then settled on 260 sako, was high use 900 animals in 3 years so I reckon your cal is pretty bang on.
The biggest issue you'll find is scope choice with multiple users rather than the cal or platform
I learnt the hard way that some people just cant get picture through some scopes,
Swaro Z5 was the worst, hope that helps ya.


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So are you still using the 143 ELDX


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Originally Posted by BRADS

I was in this exact spot 4 years ago,
Jumped all over the show and then settled on 260 sako, was high use 900 animals in 3 years so I reckon your cal is pretty bang on.
The biggest issue you'll find is scope choice with multiple users rather than the cal or platform
I learnt the hard way that some people just cant get picture through some scopes,
Swaro Z5 was the worst, hope that helps ya.



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@BADS what 'scope was best?

Originally Posted by Tahr

@BADS what 'scope was best?

I dont no if there is a best Bruce,
No one ever had any eye box issues with the Leupold Vx6 so we stuck with that.


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Originally Posted by Mathias

I think 3100fps would be achievable with the 135 Berger and a 24" barrel. My 260Imp (24.5" barrel) got to 3099 average with 129gr LRAB, pressure signs just showing.

Had a bit of a play around and compared the 135 classic at 3100fps I would like to get in the 6.5PRC, to my current load in my 260 Ackley. 130 VLD hunting at 2965fps

I used 450yrds. I would consider that the max range the rifle will be used on an animal.
Very rare not to be able to get closer where we hunt Thar and chamois. It is also rare for people I hunt with to be comfortable taking an animal beyond 300yrds.

Not much difference on the dial with the PRC an MOA less at 5.2 opposed to 6.2 in my rifle with typical atmospherics in the high country

But the PRC hits 200fps faster and over 300 ft-lbs harder.









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Originally Posted by R93

Had a bit of a play around and compared the 135 classic at 3100fps I would like to get in the 6.5PRC, to my current load in my 260 Ackley. 130 VLD hunting at 2965fps

I used 450yrds. I would consider that the max range the rifle will be used on an animal.
Very rare not to be able to get closer where we hunt Thar and chamois. It is also rare for people I hunt with to be comfortable taking an animal beyond 300yrds.

Not much difference on the dial with the PRC an MOA less at 5.2 opposed to 6.2 in my rifle.

But the PRC hits 200fps faster and over 300 ft-lbs harder.










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for interest sake I will give you the 270WSM data when I get home in the morning for the same distance.

for 270 wsm just a quick calc I did online

450 yards

2376 fps

1755 ft/lbs

come up 5 Moa correction

this is based on 140gr berger VLDS

Originally Posted by dannyb

for 270 wsm just a quick calc I did online

450 yards

2376 fps

1755 ft/lbs

come up 5 Moa correction

this is based on 140gr berger VLDS

Nothing in it at all as far as velocity just a bit more energy with a slightly heavier bullet.
Do one for 850yrds at sea level standard day. 1013.2 HPA and 15° c




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Originally Posted by R93

Nothing in it at all as far as velocity just a bit more energy with a slightly heavier bullet.
Do one for 850yrds at sea level standard day. 1013.2 HPA and 15° c




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850 yards

1761 fps

964 ft/lbs

but hell who's gonna shoot at that range ?

Originally Posted by dannyb

850 yards

1761 fps

964 ft/lbs

but hell who's gonna shoot at that range ?

Not me unless on steel or paper.
I just wanted to see where the 6.5 takes over.

850 yrds sea level std day.
1832.3 fps
1006.3 ft-lbs

Odd as my calc say 16.8 as well



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Originally Posted by R93

Not me unless on steel or paper.
I just wanted to see where the 6.5 takes over.

850 yrds sea level std day.
1832.3 fps
1006.3 ft-lbs



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whats the moa come up ?