Looks great mate, came up like new.
Mine will be getting the same over winter along with looking at oiling the stock back up .
Cheers for the post
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Looks great mate, came up like new.
Mine will be getting the same over winter along with looking at oiling the stock back up .
Cheers for the post
whats your plan for this rifle at the moment @viper . . . dial up scope in the near future and push the range out there a bit or leave it as is and use as a general purpose setup ?
R.
@ rossi.45 , she's all set up now, Gundoc has given it a good going over and tickled the trigger, threaded and suppressed.
My long range / short range varmint / Deer rig.
Running a average Bushnell scope 4 - 16 and according to the guy I got it off dials up well.
Some fine tuning still to be done, shooting factory ammo and saving case's, will slowly get odd's and ends for reloading.
You getting out much ? I am yet to see much impact from the new virus.
i didnt realise it was a dial up scope . . . thats cool.
i am still shooting about the same as always, 2 times a week or more if i can manage it .. . picked up another shooting spot with a good mixture of close in scrub running along wide open paddocks for LR work . . . which gave me a good excuse ( i don't need much to spend money on guns ) to modify a .22lr semi thats been spending to much time in the cupboard. @gundoc chopped the barrel back to 10.5inches & fitted a suppressor for me, very cool little carbine now & great to meet a gunsmith of such huge talent who lives so close to home.
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the Virus has been very successful on my main farm . . . but not so much on his neighbours for some odd reason.
R.
Mate cool little semi, looks very handy around the Briar bushs.
I have that same little suppressor, surprisingly effective and light.
Yeah agree, very fortunate to have someone like Gundoc in our neck of the woods, top man and very interesting to talk to. I had to make myself go home, could have stayed for hours talking:D
@viper don’t worry I have the same problem with the gun maker I go to.
Need to almost physically get myself by the clollar and drag my sorry ass out the door:XD:
I do have another trigger guard that I’ll give the same treatment to this one is not as nice as the one I posted. Has milling marks I’ll see if I can get it up to the same finish. Also this time I’ll take plenty of pics.
@rossi.45 nice looking carbine that you have had made up. I’ve gotten rid of all my small bore’s as had no ground to shoot em on. Think I might look at getting a firearms rated air gun as this has a lot more versatility in the uk. The trouble the I have is the ground here is covered in flint so the ricocheted’s are horrendous:O_O: when you hear them whine off your left thinking bloody hell where’s that going to land:O_O: So my thinking is air rifle to keep the eye in.
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Why?
Because some numpty forgot to apply etching primer:omg:
So back to the white. Attachment 86131
Bugger, oh well you won't forget next time, didn't take long to chip / scratch .
Had my 222 out over the weekend, 20 rabbits shot out to 275 yrs. Just shitty old Winchester Softpoint factory ammo so it's doing ok.
Lacks the legs of a 223 but reloading and better projectiles will help I think plus I am only just starting with the dial up and that does my head in. Something about spending all that time zeroing it in only to turn the dials all over the place and then hope it all returns back to zero again. I know it's a well proven method but seems wrong when you first start.
some random thoughts as i have a coffee @viper
to me the whole process is enjoyable, a bit tiresome if your going up and down huge amounts as in rimfire LR but generally its a fun thing with the BIG payoff with a good hit . . . that rabbit getting rolled at distance spins my wheels everytime and makes up for all the expense, time etc that came before
hours at the reloading bench can become a grind so mostly i break it up into bits . . . cases one day, primer seating the next, powder and bullet seating another . . . if it becomes hard work you will chuck it eventually . . attitude is everything.
with dialing i like to think of it as starting with a zero of say 100yds and then if i see a wabbit at 275 i am dialing up for a 275yrd zero . . . hopefully with a dead rabbit in the very near future.
as you say viper the .223 has longer legs than the .222, if yours is like mine it only likes 50grn bullets so your not going to get a big improvement in range whatever bullet you choose . . . my treble2 is a 275 - 300yrd rifle on a good day, with the ability to roll a Deer out to 200 . . . for fckall cost, thats pretty cool.
end of ramble . . . R
@ rossi.45, thanks for the thoughts , I think your dead right on everything you mention.
This is my 3rd trip down the reloading road. Each of the previous times I swore I wouldn't ever reload again.......but here I go again.
I told my wife I was going to reload again, the look on her face was priceless, just a smirk and a look that suggested I am a total wanker for selling my last reloading kit. I don't blame her , should have kept it .
This time I will break it into stages as you suggest.
Still getting to know both the rifle and the calibre but your overview seems bang on and I need to work on this, cool gun though and like you say great to hear that thump when it connects.
Enjoy the coffee, will catch up at some point for one.
Viper
@viper year could have kicked myself actually I did:XD: but sat at the beach yesterday watching the dog swim for 45 minutes and it all came off.
When I got home I also stripped the spare one that I had to compare the two and put the best one on the rifle.
Think I'll stay with the original one. But both came up very nicely.
Getting some primer today:thumbsup:
I had a cf2 in 6.5x55 yes it was a factory chambering just not all that meny round
Was a nice gun I sold it though to meny guns not enough uses i to am about to enter the 222 owners club
When I’ve payed for her in a couple of weeks
I’ve always been interested in trying one I don’t need it for any particular reason but ive been keen to have one to play with
@rambo-6mmrem what rifle are you looking at in 222 ?
If that trigger guard is steel it would look good blued
@viper buying superdivers sportco you were looking at mate
@rambo-6mmrem, yeah it was a cool looking rig,it's what got me started down the 222 route, only reason I didn't pursue it further was the FAL and shipping thing.
Walked into the local H&F and saw the BSA, no hassle.
The Sportco would be great, again something a bit different and a great project to muck about with.
Good luck, let me know how you get on, maybe a bit premature but welcome to the Triple Deuce Club.
Yeah really looking forward to it be a couple of weeks before i finish paying for it
Ive owned Poo poo 3’s before but they don’t really do anything for me the 222 ive never owned before but with the long neck it looks like a shooter and just a cool old cal shame about the 1/14 twist and being stuck with 50gn or so bullets
Im just going to buy bulk seirra hornady or nosler 50gn sp bullets
But will get lapua brass and good primers and I’ll use cfe223 powder as I already use it for 6.5 Grendel
Been a long time since I’ve owned a centre fire rifle smaller than 6.5
@rambo-6mmrem, yeah they are a very accurate caliber with that long neck, held bench rest records for years and years. The 1/14 twist is a little inhibiting but sounds like that was what they were designed to shoot really well, helps take the guess work out.
There are guys shooting 40 gr Vmax on Youtube and getting some very tight groups and going up to 53gr.
The CFE powder should be great.
I have got lucky with a guy here in Cromwell who has got out of 222 and gone to a bigger gun and selling up.
I picked up 160 live factory rounds and 203 once fired case's ( mixed , winchester, norma , Lapua )for $100.:thumbsup:
So it's down the reloading path I go, be nice to load varmint projectiles again and hear that thump. Not sure which powder .
Never going to be a high volume gun for me, I have the 17HMR for that but some long range bunny busting and gong shooting on nice still days.
man you dont need to sweat the twist rate...... I mean think about it for a minute will you??? the guys who shot deer for a living with treblies DIDNT HAVE FAST TWIST OPTION and yet it made its name and fame with what it was fed.....they didnt have wonderfull 45-50 grn barnes etc mono jobbies either which will make you smile when you see what they do on deer sized animals.
I own a .223 and have purposely loaded 50 grn pills as I believe thats part of reason the trebly is so good....the 50s are SOFTER???? than 55s so dump energy more....bunnies out to 250ish shouldnt need dial up...nothing wrong with good old Kentucky windage once you get to know how much to hold over,it just adds to the challenge. Ive shot bunnies at over 200 with brothers trebly they didnt know where first low shot came from so didnt move far.....didnt move at all after 2nd one.
shot goats with 45grn factory loads..and 50 grn loads...shot pig with 52grn speer hp load (still a favourite pill in .223).
For me it’s more a longer range bunny buster than a deer gun although no one is saying that it’s not capable hell there’s been heaps of deer shot with 222 and he’ll even 22lr has shot plenty of deer
50gn even better these days with the choice of bonded or mono bullets is fine but I reckon a faster twist and 65gn bullets would just make a fantastic cal even better that’s all i was saying
i can appreciate why you like a challenge MickyD using Kentucky windage, its definitely old school which is kinda cool.
Your giving up some longer range potential & first round hits are going to go down as the range gets out there but if your into simplicity its not a bad tradeoff . . . my Sako .222 has an older steel tube 6X Khales which makes a great walkabout rifle . . makes a nice change from some of the heavy barrel varmint rigs i carry around.
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Just another note on the trigger guards. Have now gotten the first coat on etching primer. They came up good.
Now for the top coat. I've sent the king screws and floor plate in to my gunmaker to get blued. I'm looking for a nice hi dark blue.
Was looking at the Creakote in a dark blue for a more longer lasting effect. Might be the go. I'll see how these come up first and then make my choice..
Might have to start a BSA thread :thumbsup:
@Sideshow, wet day here today so I have dropped the barrel / action out of the stock. Trigger guard off and sanded and getting ready for etch.
My trigger guard isn't nice and smooth like yours as there is brazing and other non - original bits for the addition of the drop out mag but it will still be better than what it was.
Stock sanded and the worse of the bruises steamed out and sanded.
First coat of stock oil done. Fine wire wool sanding tomorrow and just repeat the process till I am happy.
I can't get all the sharp dings and gouges out but that's ok , a few battle scars adds character.
@viper make sure you take plenty of time between coats with the oiling. You need at least seven coats. Oh if you didn't know don't oil the checkering!
I used 1200grit paper on the trigger guard to get it nice and smooth. Then used a degreaser before painting to get rid of any oil residues left from fingers etc. The spray will only fill so many holes and scratch. Don't be scared to rub out any blemishes before the final coats.
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The spare one with the rough machine marks
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The pair all sanded up and degreased
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First coats of etching primer on
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What oil are you using? I've done a handful of stocks and always used tru-oil, but does look a bit varnishy to me.
One thing I read recently was they used a Danish oil to get the deep classic oil looking finish and only then finish off with the tru-oil for the last couple of coats.
@csmiffy , I ve used the true oil system and a rifle stock wax on a .22 I have, came out great and shows no sign of tear. You are right though it's a little glossy.
This time round I have found Scherell's Schaftol. German gunstock product.
It came in clear or dark, I went for dark.
Two coats in and it's starting to slowly colour up, looks nice so far, not to dark and grain starting to pop.
Will do between 7 - 14 plus coats, rub down with clean linen cloth and ultra fine steel wool between coats.
A very small amount seems to go a long way.
May post photo's once done, it not going to be a pristine super model of a stock , more a pretty working girl with nice make up:thumbsup:
@viper nice stuff. I like the idea of putting a red tint into the stock, but also doing a bit of repair work so probably should stick to the darker stuff.
the original wood is pretty light on the surface so the dark stuff may be ok? decisions decisions.