he should put dpts on them :P
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he should put dpts on them :P
How true. Just add a trigger lightening to 2lb and it is a bloody shooter and robot reliable.The Tikka stock does the job very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
he might have to reduce the price again... why would you pay US$750 for a Hardy Barrel whe you could buy a Bartlein for US$350?Quote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
To be fair, he is competing against the likes of proof research not bartlein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney
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ah sorry carbon fibre barrels.... the latest in unsubstantiated marketing BS....
LOL you seen/built/shot one yet ? :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney
I have seen, haven't shot, thought about and concluded the only tangible benefit is small amounts of weight reduction. But for the cost not worth it for me...
I do understand ascetic value, but fat barrels belong on bench rest guns. If I want carbon, I can put tape on .... :D
I might take more notice when bench rest guys do..... can 't see that happening at the prices though even if the performance is OK
There is more than just a little bit of weight to be saved if you compare a 24mm dia S/S barrel to a carbon wrapped barrel of equal dia I'm sure you will find it is a great difference.
And there is not much difference in cost between wrapping to fluting.
who carries a 24mm SS barrel?
who carries it more than once?
why does it matter if it's on a range?
Who flutes barrels.. ? I chop and suppress......look how much money I am saving... :D
All power to the man, but thats a $5000 tikka without a suppressor. I can do a Deviant/Bartlein/Manners with a Bix n Andy trigger for about that.... or a least the bits..
If I actually had $5000..... :D
For 5k id buy an 86 Carbon light
Tikka second hand $800
Carbon stug stock $595
Hardy Carbon barrel $1550
Total $2945
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Hey Gadjetman, yeah fair call mate, I see where your coming from.
I know they are very plain Janes but I ve had 3 now and they have all shot very well so have grown to like the rifle.....just doesn't win any looks or personality contests.
However they shoot generally a lot better than the price would indicate. Accuracy is never boring even if the rifle is.
I know of someone who has just had a carbon hardy barrel fitted for a lot less that $1550, if there price was repeatable your idea gets very affordableQuote:
Originally Posted by 25/08IMP
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When last did you see a second hand Tikka for $800?
Even so, you are now in new Finnlight territory, guess which one I would have?
Yeah, I went for a Savage or two. Ugly apparently, no one has told me what is ugly, but they too shoot small groups. I went for a Savage because I could top load, it was nigh on impossible to remove the bolt with only two hands (I'm a klutz), fitted me well enough and after a trip to the range with 6 guys sighting in a new T3 the weekend before I thought I'd get something different. If everyone was the same and liked the same things we'd have a very boring world.Quote:
Originally Posted by viper
I picked up cheap T3 223rem with only 2 boxes of ammo down the tube for $700 for my 300 Blackout build. There is the odd bargain on Trade-Me and Facebook if ones prepared wait. They are only worth what someone wants to pay, its only a hunk of plastic and stainless steel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
Fair enough, few and far between though as everyone seems to think they are worth more than a new one!
Still just seems odd to me to spend 2k upgrading an 800 dollar rifle.
If someone told me they spent $100k upgrading their $50k corolla I would think they were mad! Just buy a new RS4 and bank the rest!
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Would rather have 4 Howas and change.... :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08IMP
After five years, the Corolla would still be worth something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
Love this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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I keep all my original stocks. If I were (and I wont be) to sell them then my rifles would be going into their original SPS (shitty plastic stocks) and be sold for what they are worth minus their flash harry bits which will be bolted onto their replacements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
I reckon a s/h hand they would be worth 800 - 900 each
I'm not sure Dan's ones are when he does them 25mm thick, 25/08IMP Blaser one was only about 30gm lighter than the original barrel, Dan told me they'd be 300-400gm lighter, so he's off the mark a bit, I'd have been pretty pissed to find out it wasn't anywhere near that. Probably better off fluting a normal one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Yes you are correct mine were very little lighter than my factory Blaser barrel but when compared to the 25mm Dia SS barrel they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
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I took my .223 1:12 T3 out for a play yesterday, it's bog standard, costed a grand brand new, chucked a Bushnell legend 4.5-14 and a Hardy gen 5 on it and freaked myself out with it's grouping yesterday. It spat 62 gn PMC all over the place but was outstanding on 55 gn Hornady sp and 62 gn Am Eagle. Can't see the point in dropping thousands on it when it works perfectly.
Can't understand why people pimp out 10/22's either, can't really figure out what to with the one I have. Only good for plinking to be honest.
Each to their own folks!
Those 12 twist don't like the heavier rounds in my experience, but the sweet spot is the 55 gr. Both the hornady soft point and OSA game king have been excellent in mine.
Back to the op though, there is obviously a market for it and even though you can buy a "high end" rifle for the same amount, some people dont have all the cash at once so upgrades are feasible I guess.
Whilst we are debating here.... what does high end count as? I mean, if it functions flawlessly and is accurate, what else matters? Clearly the weight issue can be fixed so what are we paying extra for?
I'm also of the "each to their own" opinion.
...And why is "because I want to/I like it" not a good enough excuse to buy something? If somebody wants to spend $$ to upgrade to whatever they want, that's cool. It's just the excuse of lightening (or whatever excuse) that annoys me. Why can't you do something to your rifle just because you like it?
To put this in context I mean someone saying they have a fluted bolt to save weight, yet carries an entire box of .338 ammo in their pack. You didn't do it for weight reduction, you did it 'cos you wanted to. And why is a bad thing to admit that?
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Plus, I think many consumers enjoy the building and improving of their rifle. Not everyone into gun sports is on this forum, so maybe they do think their tikka upgrade is special. It's special to them, I guess that's all that matters! I think Hardy have tapped into that.
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I'm special.
I wanted it light weight....
I should have stopped drinking beer and eating everything that passes my face... but I can't so I can save f all on the bolt and barrel instead.... justification rules!!
Carried a heavy rifle for 3 days in this hills of Otago as didn't once think "this needs to be 500grm lighter"... I was more concerned with how fat my ass was, and how much I wanted to sit down.
Some people will always spend heaps more on something than they need to, Then go on about it. Obviously Dan Hardy has tapped into the fact that some ppl like to spend money for no reason so good on him, it just surprises me because I though blowing shitloads of cash was an AR thing.
The problem I have is after ammo bills there's nothing left out of the shooting budget at the moment, hell I've only bought one rifle this year and that was more for spares/future proofing an old 30 06 I like to shoot. I may have to start a give-a-little page soon for a 300 winmag build.
Perfect @Dougie except you forgot the "Amen" at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougie
Because I want to and Because I can are 2 of the best reasons ever
So save a couple of grand on rifle mods and get a quad. At least you can bring a hearty lunch in a chilli bin with ya......Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimySquirrel
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Had a quad. It didn't help... tussock was too tall. Now, if I was just rich enough to own a chopper and be able to fly that bastard in... park up and walk.. wait... shoot from the sky then tow it out... hang on, I think I'm missing the point here. ... and beginning to sound like DOC too.
Now that is just rude. Like your thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrome
Well I went from carrying a 22lr to carrying a 22lr and 223rem when out rabbit hunting. I found I was slightly faster up hill carrying the second rifle. With only one rifle it was one step up, half a step slide back. With two rifles there was enough now just enough purchase with the cleats on my boots to avoid that half step slide back. Bugger lightening a rifle for me, what can I add?Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimySquirrel