Thread: A-Cat semi-auto mag capacity

Been following a thread on the Other Forum (I'm a slut like that) about magazine capacity...

from the Arms Act:
"military style semi-automatic firearm means a firearm that is
a semi-automatic firearm having one or more of the following features:
a magazine (other than .22) that
(a) is capable of holding more than 7 cartridges; or
(b) is detachable, and by it's appearance indicates that it is capable of holding more than 10 cartridges".

The poster comments: "...a detachable 10 shot mag is permitted as long as it doesn't look like it takes more than 10 shots. This is a change from the first definition of MSSA
where the detachable mag capacity was 7 shot".

So...I have an A-Cat licence. I have a couple of steel 10 shot mags for my AR that have been factory pinned to 5 shot.
Would like to grab my power drill and drill out the rivet to restore capacity to 10 shot.

Is this legal? Would appreciate your opinion.

I have always been under the understanding that a mag capable of holding any more than 7 rounds in a center fire semi auto that is A-cat is illegal.
So you could potentially modify your 5 round mags to hold an extra 2 shots but no more.

That being said, more knowledgeable people will probably correct me.

If you insert a magazine capable of holding more than 7 rounds into your A-cat center-fire semi-auto rifle you're illegally converting it into an MSSA.

Having the appearance of holding 10 rounds is a concession to the fact that most magazines manufactured in the world of similar capacity are 5 or 10 rounders.

Your 10 shot mags are allowed to hold up to 7 rounds. You can de-pin them and re-pin them in a different spot to go from 5 to 7 shots.

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Originally Posted by rockland

So...I have an A-Cat licence. I have a couple of steel 10 shot mags for my AR that have been factory pinned to 5 shot.
Would like to grab my power drill and drill out the rivet to restore capacity to 10 shot.

Don't.

Spend the time and money like everyone else who has endorsements.

Originally Posted by Recoil

If you insert a magazine capable of holding more than 7 rounds into your A-cat center-fire semi-auto rifle you're illegally converting it into an MSSA.

Having the appearance of holding 10 rounds is a concession to the fact that most magazines manufactured in the world of similar capacity are 5 or 10 rounders.

+1

The (b) above means you cannot pin an 11 round or greater mag to 7 or less and have it as A-cat.

Originally Posted by Recoil

If you insert a magazine capable of holding more than 7 rounds into your A-cat center-fire semi-auto rifle you're illegally converting it into an MSSA.

Having the appearance of holding 10 rounds is a concession to the fact that most magazines manufactured in the world of similar capacity are 5 or 10 rounders.

Got stopped by cops on way home random breath thing, passed that but they saw the gun bag in the back asked to haul it out and show license. One copper sees its an sks with fullsize mag (but pinned at 7) gets a bit bolshi. Thank god for the sgt there who sorted it or off to the station it would have been

As I said on that thread, Flintlock's interpretation is not correct.

That guy has no clue what he's on about. The appearance rule is to stop you pinning a 30 rounder to 7 rounds.

Thanks for the responses fellas, looks like the drill's not an option!

I see Spear Mags have 3 x 7 shot mags for $150 so might go with that.

Kscott- yeah I will consider applying for an E endorsement, would make sense as I do a bit of pest control work.

Thanks again everyone.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Got stopped by cops on way home random breath thing, passed that but they saw the gun bag in the back asked to haul it out and show license. One copper sees its an sks with fullsize mag (but pinned at 7) gets a bit bolshi. Thank god for the sgt there who sorted it or off to the station it would have been

If they had arrested you the best thing would've been to use the right to remain silent....

If they hadn't then getting a lawyer and their advice would've been to; decline the offer to answer verbal questions but to answer written questions only and to fully cooperate with police In their investigation.

It's much like changing your firearms storage, you don't actually have to go into the station to do it, a simple letter to the arms officer will suffice.

Originally Posted by rockland

Thanks for the responses fellas, looks like the drill's not an option!

I see Spear Mags have 3 x 7 shot mags for $150 so might go with that.

Kscott- yeah I will consider applying for an E endorsement, would make sense as I do a bit of pest control work.

Thanks again everyone.

It's worth the effort. The current number of shooters who go fuck you I'll do what I want with endorsements is high and disappointing.

Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter

It's much like changing your firearms storage, you don't actually have to go into the station to do it, a simple letter to the arms officer will suffice.

Worst. Advice. Ever.

Originally Posted by Kscott

Worst. Advice. Ever.

And your advice would be?.........what?

To be honest we just text our AO for changes of address.... (Her request)