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    Class 1 DG house insurance

    Could not find anything in the small print for tower insurance. Have you come across any disclaimers about void insurance if you have class 1 DG (powder) stored in your house?


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    I rang mine as I couldn't find anything either. They said no more than 15kg in the house. But I didnt ask about any out buildings as I didn't have any.

    That lines up with the legislation. Where more than 15kg of 1. 3 requires a controlled zone.
    And more than 100kg requires a test certificate at a hazardous substance location.
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    Sweet, I’ve got like 11 more kilos to go!


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    I would make a call and have that confirmed!

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    If you had enough primers for 15kg of powder, they would be worth more than your house!

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    Copied from Arms Code 2013 which NZ Police apparently still use on their website.
    “It is illegal to store any propellant powders in a house. It must be stored in a separate building, such as a locked garden shed. This needs to be cool and dry. Only the smallest quantities of propellant should be stored. Those wishing to load or reload ammunition for sale or supply to others should check any constraints or licensing provisions with ERMA (Environmental Risk Management Authority).”
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    Yeah, cannot store class 1 product in a dwelling house effectively. There's a catch all in most insurance agreements about not covering claims where unlawful activities have occurred so pays to double check that one and get it clarified...
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    Quote Originally Posted by woods223 View Post
    Copied from Arms Code 2013 which NZ Police apparently still use on their website.
    “It is illegal to store any propellant powders in a house. It must be stored in a separate building, such as a locked garden shed. This needs to be cool and dry. Only the smallest quantities of propellant should be stored. Those wishing to load or reload ammunition for sale or supply to others should check any constraints or licensing provisions with ERMA (Environmental Risk Management Authority).”
    And seeing most homes built now have attached garages and no space for outbuildings, that may need to be addressed...
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    You should be careful to avoid circumstances that may give an insurance company a reason to decline your claim.

    Powder should not be stored in a dwelling.

    A secure garden shed can store your powder for reloading.

    I asked my local volunteer fire brigade chief if I should have a dangerous goods sign on my main storage building.
    He said no, not required for the quantity involved.

    Fortunately for me I have several non-attached garages and other outbuildings for storage.
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    I was an insurance assessor on major claims for 18 years until about a year ago and never heard of a declinature for such or saw a clause in a policy if you were sensible.

    Sure if you decided to do some reloading by candle light they might get difficult but otherwise really not an issue.

    I have been involved with settling many claims where people just did dumb things but they still accepted them.
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    If its limited quantities its not an issue. Limited quantities in the DG world means less than 5kg.

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    Slight problem with that is LQDG rules don't apply to Class 1 materials. They are a special case under DG rules, similar to radioactive materials.
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    so.....are firearms inside a gunsafe,in a submerged house that has been red stickered still considered "secured".....
    75/15/10 black powder matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    so.....are firearms inside a gunsafe,in a submerged house that has been red stickered still considered "secured".....
    Probably stupid question but are many of the fireproof safes also waterproof or hermetically sealed? Not talking about like a 5 gun spika safe but the big boy ones.

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    I don't think they are as most have holes for bolts etc...

 

 

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