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Hey all, hubby has been looking at getting a clip on night vision scope, I think the pard 007.
Has anyone used this? Any good? I was thinking of getting it for Father’s Day but it’s still a good chunk of money to risk on something neither of us have used and we don’t know anyone who has.
He currently uses a handheld thermal monocular and fairly good normal rifle scope but he’s wanting to pair night vision with the thermal monocular.
A few people on here are using these and seem to be quite happy with them. Like you, I've not been able to commit to one yet... too many other projects on the go!
There are lots of threads here on these both pard and sytong that will help you decide.
If I knew how I'd post links but try the search function sometimes it comes up trumps.
I use that combo and it is excellent.
Chat to Ken @ 55Six about the Sytong version. You will save several 100 $
I've been using a pard007 for a while now.
It's a good unit but a couple of things to keep in mind with clip on's:
They will come close to your eye, I need to put a recoil slip on over the stock to increase the length. Stops my eye being mashed up against the viewer.
Having a scope with paralax focus is very very very useful. IR light focuses at a different point from visible light. It gets old trying to shoot an out of focus rabbit when all you can ID are eyes and a blob.
https://youtu.be/Y82DXpelau8
The combination of a thermal for spotting and NV for shooting is just the ducks danglies.
Are there any consumer grade clip on units that attach to the objective lens rather that the ocular lens worth looking at?
Theres these ones: https://www.advancedoptics.nz/produc...-night-vision/Quote:
Originally Posted by Moutere
Im not sure on price or how effectively they retain zero when you take them off and put them back on.
The Sytong units will save you hundreds over the equivalent Pard. We are already ordering a new shipment on top of an existing incoming shipment just to keep up with demand.
The Sytongs are available at independent dealers, just ask. Sytong will not be available at hunting and fishing due to their hypocritical anti gun stance.
Sytong has a lot under development. We have listed some of the new gear on the sytong.co.nz website. They also have an HT-77 model due in 2 months which is a clip on with range finder, plus they have thermals incoming. They definitely have the most proactive development team in the night vision industry.
Conveniently the Sytong is on spesh at the moment too
https://55six.co.nz/product/sytong-h...n-rear-add-on/
Damn, that's tempting at that price! It would go with my thermal spotter quite nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoon
Hear what @Joe_90 is saying, those units look like that come back an awful long way. Are they usable?
Just clipping the pard on I struggle a bit with having it too close. Hence the slip on recoil pad to increase the length of pull basically.
The other option would be to mount the scope slightly further forward. It'll always be a compromise between day and night use I think.
I'm tempted by that Sytong HT-66 clip on for a play. @55six what are people using for scanning prior to looking through the scope? I assume it's not quick enough to pop on and off the rifle as dual scanning and scope option?
Yes its push a button and a quarter turn. Pretty quick to detach from the adapter. We have multiple size adapters landing next week so that you can mount on additional scopes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makros
Hi Phil, try if you can get a forward clip on(opjective bell).Then you can leave yr day time set alone.Haveing a clip on on yr eye piece just makes a mockery of trying to shoot in yr normal position.I know you will pay a little more forward clip on but worth it.You doing ok at the moment with shooting game.Wait a bit and get a good second hand forward clip on,some go for half price.
The thing with forward clip ons as I understand is that you will be magnifying the TV screen so loosing resolution. The rear mounted one uses optical magnification so you wont loose definition at higher magnification. However, forward mount is the only option for thermals.
Been playing with my new 007s which is shorter than the older model so not such a hassle.
The biggest thing is to have a scanning scope if you can. It's easier than clipping and unclipping while trying to hunt.
I have a Sytong and a pard 008.
The pard has a rangefinder which is extremely useful. This set up pretty much lives on my .22.
I have been using the Sytong for rabbit work on the .223. It is a good unit. I have no problem with it being too close to my eye at all so it might be a smaller unit than the older pard 007?
You need a scope with parallax adjustment, I can't use it on any without it. A vari power scope with a lower magnification is handy to aid rapid target acquisition.
Get another couple of batteries to use with it, I just use some high end ones from a vape shop.
Lastly the stock standard scope adapter they come with can not fit on a single scope I own, so sloppy that you have to use a lot of tape and it is extremely hard to stop the unit moving when living in a side by side, quite frustrating. Fortunately they have more eye adaptors coming next week by the looks.
Would I recommend the Sytong, definitely! Awesome piece of kit!
Ideally a hand held thermal to spot is what you're after. The reason I use night vision instead of a thermal scope (which I have used) is because you can positively identify your target. You can have a good guess with a thermal scope but it is just that.
These photos are screen shots off video recordings so are far less quality than the footage itself especially seeing as the rifle and or object are moving.
Kiwi at approx 80 yards
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Plover at approx 60 yards
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Pāteke at approx 40 yards
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Not trying to talk myself in to this or anything (!), but if these night vision devices work OK in daylight, then could you shift the scope forward to the point that you get good eye relief with the device attached? Downside is that you would always have to have the device attached to use the rifle. Would that work?
At that point wouldn't you just buy a dedicated NV scope?Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Guess so, but I thought the cost goes up significantly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Makros
Hi team , I bought the Sytong 66 off their trademe site a couple of weeks ago , first impressions , quality build and packaging, small compact . I have it fitted to a nikon buckmaster 4.5-14x40 with side focus, I use it as a hand held as well . I check out our sheep and can see them out to 150mtrs + and can stretch it out to 200mtrs+ but I think 70-100 m would be ideal for me which is plenty , I wear glasses so a bit of adjusting the focus to get it just right . out to 50 mtrs it is very clear. looking through it at Dusk turns it into daytime , then flick it on to NV when dark . For $599 you wont get better .
I'm pretty sure the newer pard 007 and the Sytong will be fine if your scope has a bit of eye relief anyway. On the rifles I have used the Sytong on I definitely haven't felt like I needed to adjust the scope forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
If I found it an issue I would probably just buy a slip on recoil pad and slide it on when a clipped on the night vision.
You can use any of them during the day. My pard 008 stays on my .22 and it is fine. It is slightly washed out in bright sun though so a little harder to pick up the target.
For the NV equipment alone sure. But you have $600 dollars in NV equipment and a normal scope that can't be used without it. If that scope is even close to $400 you're definitely better off just getting the dedicated NV scope.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Seen we are on the subjects of clip on s,some photos here from a night vision clip on and pulsar thermal hand held thats iv taken.Iv sold both now and have thermal clip on,Guide TA 435.Thort you guys might be interestedI enjoy watching more wild life than iv shot.Attachment 177330120mtrs.Attachment 17733120mtrAttachment 177332rabbits 500mtrs.Attachment 177333140mtrsAttachment 177334aeroplane 4k away.Attachment 177340140yds
Nice pics, especially the wallaby. I prefer the black hot setting as I think it makes the surrounding terrain and foliage a bit more visible and you can get a reasonable idea of distance if you are familiar with the surroundings.
For a couple of places I shoot regularly I've done range cards.
I generally hunt only 4 areas at night .I know those areas very well,especilly distance.Anything i shoot is inside 250yds=308,roos n deer.Rabbits generally shoot inside 40yds=22 or 177.Iv taken 100s of photos at night and delected most now.These are just a few i found left over.
