Hi I have been looking at upgrading my old 7mm08 to something a bit lighter weight and more effective at longer ranges. Was looking at a .270 but I was just wondering if thats much of an upgrade from a 7mm08.
I normally hunt Tararua or Ruahine ranges and shoot anywhere from 20m to 300m.
7mmRM
300m. Just keep the 7mm08. More than enough for that distance.
The words 270 and "upgrade" don't belong together
Sent from my SM-S916B using Tapatalk
Unless its got WSM after it:)Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
That's not an upgrade the 7-08 will do those ranges and some just load it correctly
Sent from my CPH2531 using Tapatalk
150lrab 2640fps 16” bbl only shot three deer so far but all three were 250mtrs il comfortably use that rifle to 500yards if I had to but it’s seldom I shoot past 300 even with my magnum
7mm08 is more than capable. Good factory choices150 grain eldx the Norma tip strike. And some good glass.
Ps. 270's are awesome but you have all you need.
I feel so offended. I think I'm going to have a sit down and write a letter.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
Buy a .270, set it up for your open country and longer range work,chop the 7mm/08 down short so suppressor that can be shared between both is down hard on forend( well just clear of it) and you will have best of both worlds. Plenty of good .270s going cheaply lately... You know you really want to try something different so why the heck not.
Haha I was considering a 7mmrm but they get expensive to feed and way more rifle than I need
A 16" 7mm08 will still do the business at 300m no problem.
Also I dont have the financial luxury for 2 big rifles... one day though
It‘s not wise to spend money on something that is not much different from what you‘ve got already when you don’t have the finances to play around!
But to be honest most of have done it often and more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemorepork
7 08 should do what you need easily. Just upgrade rhe scope maybe? Whats the actual rig
yes that’s true, including me.Quote:
Originally Posted by erniec
Hello, were talking gun's here, where does common sense feature into the decision?Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemorepork
I note the 2 items on your wish list = #1 shoot out to 300m and #2 light weight. As others have mentioned 708 is very capable at ranges you state, & further. But you need the right projectiles & accuracy for 300+. Do you reload? Or rely on factory ammo ? Ideally in 708 I’d be picking 160 - 162 gn projectiles like ELDMS or X or 160 TMKs or you could run 150 ELDX, which are available in Hornady Superformance factory ammo. These would be a good choice if they shoot accurately from your rifle. Reloading will give you more options & the ability to tune loads to suit. If you don’t reload do you know some one that does ?
Chopping barrel to 16 or 18in will drop a bit of weight. An after market carbon fibre stock would be the best way to reduce weight & improve accuracy potential. What brand of rifle do you have at present? A Tikka in 708 and short bbl is a pretty light weight set up in the Tikka factory stock, and proven accurate shooters. I realise Tikkas aren’t everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s going to tick the box on your 2 wishes. If you want to go further down the light weight, longer range path then save your $ for CF stock. Just remember that shooting a light weight rifle accurately takes good skills & discipline on the part of shooter.
And there’s nothing wrong with a 270 either. But light weight 270, more recoil, is going to be more challenging to shoot accurately.
But why when an 18" or 20" 7-08 will do all that a .270 will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Sent from my CPH2531 using Tapatalk
And betterQuote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
Sent from my SM-S916B using Tapatalk
You are not wrong there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
Sent from my CPH2531 using Tapatalk
Lol these calibre arguments are ridiculous. Ballistically they're very similar. A 162gr eldm @2650fps vs a 145eldx @2950fps, both hold 1000ft lbs past 700m the .270 retaining a bit more velocity. You can't go wrong with either one.
If you want a significant upgrade, go to 7mm rem mag.
Thanks for the input. So by the sounds theres not much to be gained by going from 7-08 to .270.
I have a 12 year old howa 1500. Only thing I dont like really is the shitty hogue stock with a flexy foregrip. Just replace the scope because the old redfield couldnt hold zero but wish i went with a slightly bigger magnification but the 2.5-10 does ok for now. The furthest shot I have achieved is 350ish metres
Just get a better rifle if you want an upgrade. The older I get the less critical the cartridge becomes. Anything will do fine out to 350m. (And yeah, I'd get it in .270 anyway if a rifle you like comes that way. There is a reason why its one of the greatest hunting cartridges ever made...)
If you are happy with the scope, the only thing I would suggest is the stock...The Howa is a very good action, reliable and usually more accurate than most shooters are capable of .( Mind you so are most new rifles.....:thumbsup:)Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennJ
A new rifle will require you to sight it in, retool with more ammunition in the correct calibre and practise setting up and getting used to the rifle....I have found that changing from one calibre to another will cost you a few packets of ammo to start with anyway and at todays prices that will exceed $100 to $200 pretty quickly so in my view that would be better spent improving what you already have.
The only thing to watch is going lighter will increase the felt recoil no matter what you end up with. To be effective at 300m + first you have to be able to hit it at 300m +. You could have the hardest hitting 50BMG and yet if you cannot shoot it accurately it will simply make a bigger crater in the ground....
Going from 7mm to 270 wont gain you much- they are very similar calibres. Capable of very similar performance...And if you look at factory ammo speeds and energy, tho be brutally honest , the 7mmRemMag is not a huge amount faster / more powerful...If you want more bullet then 7mm08 to 308, or 270 to 30/06 there is a little bit of gain, but again not enough to warrant significant outlay.
Like others have said upgrade your rifle any caliber 243 and up will work out to 350 find something you like and happy days
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Your still looking for that rifle a Buzz [emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzmann
Sent from my SM-S916B using Tapatalk
I was going to say I do this every second week so I know[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I should also add buy a tikka light weight most accurate factory rifle on the market just soul less
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I own a 7mm-08 and a 270, both Winchester Model 70s. I only bought the 270 because it was a flasher version of the same rifle I already had and loved and it was going for a good price. Not because I wanted a 270 in particular. I've tucked it away for future use for when my poor old rusty 7mm-08 finally gets too embarrassing to use. In practical terms, these rifles do pretty much the same thing and there's no hunting or shooting I personally do where a 270 provides any advantage over a 7mm-08. In theory a 270 has marginally less drop, but you need to get out to unrealistic hunting ranges where you would be using a dedicated long range calibre anyway.
Greetings @GlennJ,Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennJ
From this and your previous post I think that you have decided current 7mm-08 fills your needs so if you are not there already perhaps handloading might be considered. The 7mm-08 is one of the easier cartridges to load for. I don't think that either the .270 or the 7mm Rem Mag would provide any benefit for the type of hunting you do and likely less than that with a heavier rifle and more recoil.
Regards GPM.
I'm going to upgrade my 270 to 708, any suggestions? :redbullsmiley:
Surprised no ones suggested going for a manbun
Maybe a sign that some maturity is creeping in to the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
i reqret down grading to 7mm08 from 270. the 270 130sst out to 400m was about 400mm holdover, 7mm08 130g speer btsp same scope is like 900mm drop. the loads were 270 130sst 2209 52.5g 22" barrel
7008 130 speer btsp 2208 44g 20'' barrel
You have chosen one of the least slippery pointy 7mm pills on the market mateQuote:
Originally Posted by holdover
I'd just run the 7mm08 with reloads.
It'll do the job on game, past the distances you've mentioned.
Use the $$$ you were gonna use on that 270 and invest in a decent scope.
Far better upgrade than going to 270
^ this.Quote:
Originally Posted by lau lau
Money into dial-able optic and potentially some modest reloading gear and deer well past 300m better watch out. Ill happily take ethical shots out to 450 with my 708 which in most hunting situations is a long way.
@mawzer308 You just quoted our exact loads eh, except I use Amax. Although you are right and I agree, we both know my 7mm08 is cooler deep down.Quote:
Originally Posted by mawzer308