Alright, well my dad just got a 223 and i've shot multiple deer with them, but i want to get my own setup for close stalking and quiet shooting pigs and goats and a good all rounder, but i dont think he'd let me get a 223 since we literally just got one, even if i wont be able to use it very much. Any other calibres sound good for those purposes? I've heard good things about 7.62x39 and 30 30s but im not sure how quiet they are or how quiet i could make them. I'm a huge advocate of humane killing as every hunter should be so i dont want to buy the wrong calibre.
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