Thread: Damn I do love a good controlled feed mauser action

No need, you won't be invited.

Originally Posted by Pommy

I tend to leave the action completely open. With a round under the extractor, it'll slide back and flick the round out into the tussock when pointed upwards.

And I rarely rely on the safety with that particular rifle. I use the set triggger on it and it has actually gone off before when the set trigger is engaged and I've flicked the safety off.

It's a bit of a faff when the animal you're lining up on ducks into cover then you have to de-cock, un-set, re-cock, apply safety, wait for the animal to re-appear, remove safety, re-set, fire. Easier to just keep the chamber empty until ready to shoot.

....better to deal with "faff" than deal with an unintended or misdirected shot.... Not trying to criticize, but need to point out the number of accidents aren't always a result of "inexperienced" hunters....

Originally Posted by Pommy

I tend to leave the action completely open. With a round under the extractor, it'll slide back and flick the round out into the tussock when pointed upwards.

And I rarely rely on the safety with that particular rifle. I use the set triggger on it and it has actually gone off before when the set trigger is engaged and I've flicked the safety off.

It's a bit of a faff when the animal you're lining up on ducks into cover then you have to de-cock, un-set, re-cock, apply safety, wait for the animal to re-appear, remove safety, re-set, fire. Easier to just keep the chamber empty until ready to shoot.

And I rarely rely on the safety with that particular rifle. I use the set triggger on it and it has actually gone off before when the set trigger is engaged and I've flicked the safety off.

well mate I have hunted for over 55 years I was a mountain Safety Instructor for 35 years and some muppet tells me that story and I will tell any one run dont go hunting with that joker

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

just remind me never to hunt with you after 55 years of hunting you are scary

Man people are brave on the internet . .. . I have been lucky enough to have hunted with Pommy, including in some very thick scrub, and can safely say he is one of the most disciplined guys I have seen in my hunting years. Despite having a huge number of years of "experience" on him I am pleased to say I learnt a couple of things off him on our hunt together.

Originally Posted by Tentman

Man people are brave on the internet . .. . I have been lucky enough to have hunted with Pommy, including in some very thick scrub, and can safely say he is one of the most disciplined guys I have seen in my hunting years. Despite having a huge number of years of "experience" on him I am pleased to say I learnt a couple of things off him on our hunt together.

AS an old Mountain safety Instructor I am pleased you can endorse his safety because his postings were scary thank you for the endorsement any one who admits to a firearm that is unsafe as he did well ???

Jesus christ. Hes clearly stating he doesnt trust it so he hunts with nothing in the chamber, did you even read the full post before going off on a tangent?

Originally Posted by Pommy

I tend to leave the action completely open. With a round under the extractor, it'll slide back and flick the round out into the tussock when pointed upwards.

And I rarely rely on the safety with that particular rifle. I use the set triggger on it and it has actually gone off before when the set trigger is engaged and I've flicked the safety off.

It's a bit of a faff when the animal you're lining up on ducks into cover then you have to de-cock, un-set, re-cock, apply safety, wait for the animal to re-appear, remove safety, re-set, fire. Easier to just keep the chamber empty until ready to shoot.

OK in the interests of a POLITE ,conversation with potential knowledge shareing to be gained...
having used a lovely Bruno fox 222 (yip the one that has been through at least 2 other forum members hands in last few years) with awesome set trigger....there are pros and cons to them.
that particular rifle had two triggers...one could be fired like normal trigger,semi heavy pull weight but ok for off hand quick shot...or you depressed set trigger to make the other one now a "hair trigger" needing something like half a pound to make it go bang.
fine n dandy if shot is taken.. but as said pain in arse if its not. carefully unload and unset trigger..then carry on.
so DONT set trigger unless 99% sure ready to make it go bang...on steady rest,lined up,breathing under control,Xhairs no longer waving around like flag pole...set and bang pretty much straight away.
IF rifle is prone to popping out round left under extractor..consider the modern practise of chambered round and safety catch applied TRIGGER NOT set.... for carrying when game is close or expected to be seen soon...

you have a system that works for you..... at end of day we hope we all do it safely.
I do know what you mean about tenderhooks unloading if trigger is set...the way the older model70s 3 position safety worked had huge merit...bolt could be worked in first position...
my wee zastava 223 mini mauser has a safety catch...its never been used LOL... didnt use the one on its big brother in .308 either. the one on HOWA 1500 sometimes gets used when lining up from steady rest and waiting for last bit of settling etc
the rem 700 doesnt have one at all.

Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

Jesus christ. Hes clearly stating he doesnt trust it so he hunts with nothing in the chamber, did you even read the full post before going off on a tangent?

yes I did- HSE rules rule one isolate - rule two minimise - rule 3 eliminate- 3 rules of HSE the awnser I would have wanted to see - I have fixed it - I have buried it or turned it into parts but I wont use it with those obvious faults

This is my Dinosaur. The original 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser. Yes, designed by Mauser about 130 years ago and still dong the business.
The 6.5x55 is possible the finest calibre ever invented and is the only calibre needed for all New Zealand big game hunting.

This particular rifle is Schultz and Larsen, possibly the finest rifle ever built. Note the fine hand checkered walnut stock and rose bud tip, beautiful! The thing I like about the S&L is the ability to change the barrel at any modern calibre you like, this is because the breech is inside the barrel, not in the receiver. Which means I could up-date to something modern like, .303 or 30-06.

That shiny piece to steel hanging out of it is call the BOLT. It probably has at least 50% more steel in it than a Tikka T3 bolt, because that bolt is designed to take any of the magnum calibres.

This will crack you up, this is a PUSH FEED ACTION! This is the rifle on which I base my safety concerns after having changed from my Alpine 30-06 which had a sporterized Mauser 98 action with a full length extractor, giving controlled feed. But I forgive the S&L that short coming because it has a palm swell like a woman's breast. However, I would never lend this push feed rifle to an inexperienced hunter. Photos to come from my phone....

It's ok, he's just upset from the other thread and thinks he's seen something here to capitalise on to make up for it. He'll crawl back under his rock in due course.

Rifle is fine. Rifle was intentionally pointed in a safe direction when this happened to test it.

State of the set trigger and safety is irrelevant once the bolt has been opened and round taken out of the chamber.

Originally Posted by Nickoli

.....Respectfully suggest that you shouldn't have a round in the chamber until you are ready to shoot.

so I can agree with that.........Im ready to shoot from the time I reach my hunting grounds and are in animal prone areas. my rifle is ALWAYS treated as loaded.....

this highlights difference between an open country hunter and someone who spends a lot of time in thick bush.... open country have time to take pack off, load up etc..in thick bush Im trying to be quiet,keep dog quiet,ID animal,close bolt/cock hammer and fire BEFORE the usually alert animal departs.... I would guess thats usually under 5 seconds from first glimpse of animal.....
two of my hunting rifles dont have a magazine at all.....far too slow to carry them without a round chambered LOL.

come on fellas...keep it civil

Lovely looking furniture on that thing @Hugh Shields.