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G'day I've got a mate that's looking to upgrade his Cadcades at the moment and looking in the price vicinity of $1000 - $1500. Will need to be 10x. I'm not familiar with current brands/quality in that price bracket. Would look at second hand stuff as well if it meant getting into better quality glass.
Cheers
Under a grand will get you a set of 10x Steiners from H&F, good glass, robust and not too heavy.
Went through this process recently. Looked through a lot of different binoculars. Narrowed it down to the leica trinovids and the Zeiss conquest. To my eyes the the Zeiss had the better image. Alot of quality options in that price bracket. Make sure he shops around too, seem to be a few places that have sharper prices that bought their stock when the nzd was better.
Does he need 40x? Got a pair of Leica 10x25 not the best for open tops or tussockland but find I use them more as they fit in pocket easier. Take them with me more places as well.
Kowa BD are awesome binos for the money, I have a friend that has them and I would rate them above Trinovids or similar, I actually thought they were not real far off my Swaro EL, Nikon Monarch 7 be good buying in that price range also
Also recommend you look at 8x30 options - Zeiss and Nikon Monarchs in particular. Bought a 2nd hand pair of Zeiss Terra’s from member on here (Cartman). They are great and a BIG weight saving on 8 or 10 x 42s. I have always used 10x42s and for big country open tops that’s what I use (Leica Geovids RF). But for tighter country and a bit of bush bashing the 8x30s are perfect
Ideally 42mm as it's all open tops stuff. Just been reading that Zen Ray are all over so I'm hoping my Primes don't have a whoopsy or I'll be in the same boat looking for a replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
Vangard endeavour ED are wicked, they have won a few awards.
The bx4 leupolds are nice to look through, bout $1100 so not wallet snappers and quality jap glass
Have been doing a lot of research into binos and these dp seem to come up as being great value for money. The ED II model is only around $500 so may not be as good as what the OP os hoping for, but there is a new model out now.Quote:
Originally Posted by von tempsky fan
Do you have a pair?
Can you offer a review or comparison to other binos you've used?
I have both Leica and Swarovski 10x25's and wouldn't be without them. The Swaros have a very minor edge over the Leica's but both are light and easy to use/carry. If you're up this way you're welcome to have a look.
Cheers guys, some good suggestions I've passed on. Like the look of the BX4 and Monarch 7s.
Yep I have had a pair for 4 years, brought them after a lot of on line research such as bird watching forums etc.
I have used them side by side with Leopold Mojaves, Swarovski El and zeiss conquest.
They were noticeably better than the Mojave and conquest especially in brightness, contrast and most important to me field of view- they are like looking through a 8x for FOV amazing. They were neck and neck with the ELS and my mate was amazed at their quality, they missed out on resolution on dusk compared to the swaro by around 5 mins , so fuck all really for the price.
I highly recommend them.
I think @Tahr has had some Vanguards?
+1 for the Kowas. I have the BD10x32XD and are really impressed with them.
The ED2s seem to be well priced at Scopeuout (never heard of the site before?).Quote:
Originally Posted by von tempsky fan
where can they be purchased ? is there a NZ stockist or an online retailer that will send to NZ ?Quote:
Originally Posted by von tempsky fan
got a link ?
Hamills rangiora stock them I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
https://www.kiwibinoculars.co.nz/sho...avor-ed-10x42/Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
https://www.scopeuout.co.nz/Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
I have bought from these guys here in NZ, great to deal with
@Snowgrass what is your mate doing with the cascades?
Not sure at this stage, will wait and see what he does with the upgrade which will probably be in a month. If he wants to sell them after I can give you a message?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
I've got a pair of bx-3hds (old bx-4s) recently compared them to ziess conquests. At dusk imo the ziess were a tad sharper and clearer. But for the $$$ that I got my bx3s for then it was worth it otherwise I'd go ziess. No experience with other stuff. Both 10x42.
I used 10x42 Kahles binos for a while. For the price they were excellent. Only design aspect I did not like was a bit of chromatic aberration when looking at very high contrast areas (snow on dark rock). They seem to sell for around $1000 second hand in excellent condition (which is what I sold mine for).
The ED Vanguards are fantastic value and quality. I highly recommend them for hunting and I've used a lot of top brands over the last 55 years. They really ram one up the Euro snobs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
https://www.allbinos.com/allbinos_ra...king-8x42.html
Make sure that you get the latest model (unless you want to save some $$). I think that the latest are the ED11.Quote:
Originally Posted by von tempsky fan
I got mine from here: https://www.jacobsdigital.co.nz/coll...r-range-finder
Great internet service.
I love my Mojave HD pro guides 10x42, I got them over in states for $600 which was less than half price at the time. Think they're between $1000 and $1500 here in NZ. Glass is bloody nice and also just the fit in my hands is great, which is a big thing for me. Nice small compact body as well.
Have a look on this site, I got a set for half NZ price and delivered to my door in 5days.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/brows...9/N/4294541838
I take it they're prices are all us dollar? No trouble with customs?Quote:
Originally Posted by DBD
At the bottom of the web page you can change to NZ $. No issues with customs.
i have used this crowd a couple of times over the years, (usually for bino lens covers)Quote:
Originally Posted by DBD
they are really good to deal with.
You want get better people to deal with, they have a "beat the price" option that will be worth a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowgrass
https://www.scopeuout.co.nz/
Hi there. I’ve got a listing that he maybe interested in if he’s still looking, chk it out.
Cheers, saw it just now so have sent him the link. Don't hold it though if you have someone wanting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TikkaNZ
Well I dropped the hammer on a set of new Vanguard ED11'S, ended up getting them from Ash at Hammills Rangiora, $599 which is pretty good sure I could've got em cheaper if I pissed about online but Ash has always looked after me so I like to support him when I can.
Not only that but due to shipping delays with show weekend they where held up in the post so Ash loaned me his personal pair of ED's for a trip I had already planned prior to purchasing. You wouldn't get that kind of service from an online merchant, so big ups to Ash at Hamills Rangiora definate G.C.
First impressions are great, well finished no blemishes etc, very clear and bright to look through obviously field testing will be required.
The only thing I was apprehensive about was a lot of online reviews said the focus ring needed to be worked a bit to loosen it up as from the factory they are a bit stiff however I was pleased to find mine was smooth and really nice to use so they must have fixed that.
Dunno when I'll be out next but I'll post up more findings when they have seen a bit of use.
Attachment 99677
@dannyb service counts for a lot....
Can someone here tell me what is (or is there anything I cannot see) the difference between the spec on the above and the Delta Forrest II 10x50
Yes 100 grms heavier (but 50 lens diameter)
Dleta 5 yr warranty against 2 year
Is there something I missing here ???
Oh - 1/3 the price of the Vanguards above - mmm - don't make sence to me
I wont mention looks - as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Attachment 99705
Delta Optical Forest II 10x50 Specifications
Manufacturer Delta Optical
SKU DO-1301
Binoculars series Delta Optical Forest II
Prism type Roof - Schmidt/Pechan
Variable magnification No
Magnification 10x
Magnification 10x
Lens diameter 50 mm
Exit pupil 5 mm
Eye relief
Field of view 98 m/1000 m
Field of view (deg.)
Apparent field of view (deg.)
Close focus
Twilight Factor 22.4
Relative Brightness 25
Light transmission
Lens coating Fully Multicoated
Diopter range
Focusing system Central
Filled with Nitrogen
Waterproof Yes
Fogproof Yes
Floatable No
Temperature range
Built-in rangefinder No
Compass No
Image stabilizer No
Color Green
Length 165 mm
Width 133 mm
Height No
Interpupillary distance
Weight 870 g
In production since
Warranty 5 years
Made in China
Manufacturer Vanguard
SKU 2000113
Binoculars series Vanguard Endeavor ED II
Prism type Roof - Schmidt/Pechan
Variable magnification No
Magnification 10x
Magnification 10x
Lens diameter 42 mm
Exit pupil 4.2 mm
Eye relief 18.5 mm
Field of view 114 m / 1000 m
Field of view (deg.) 6.5°
Apparent field of view (deg.) No
Close focus 2.0 m
Twilight Factor
Relative Brightness 17.6
Light transmission
Lens coating Fully Multicoated
Diopter range +4 / -4 dpt
Focusing system Central
Filled with Nitrogen
Waterproof Yes
Fogproof Yes
Floatable No
Temperature range
Built-in rangefinder No
Compass No
Image stabilizer No
Color Black
Length 154 mm
Width 130 mm
Height No
Interpupillary distance
Weight 770 g
In production since
Warranty 2 years
Made in China
Weight, field of view, physical size.
Granted yours have a couple pluses too but for me size and weight matter.
No offense mate but sounds like a case of sour grapes and there's no need for it.
You offer great products at a price point, that doesn't mean everyone wants or needs your product. Personal preference counts.
And your right beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder
sour grapes ??Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Nothing sour here - I never promote for profit on here anyway
Lets say "more confusion"
Sweet as mate just sounded like you were a bit bemused why I would by vanguards over your delta forests.
Misunderstanding no stress :thumbsup:
