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For the same money you will generally get better optical quality for a lower zoom ratio, its the same with camera lenses. Want to make more complex optics of the same quality, it will cost more (and they will probably be heavier).Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
If you know of some exceptions to that I'd be interested to know though, I'll be putting a new scope of the 223 before too long...
? Happy a retailer~?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
2-10 or 2-12 sounds about perfect to me. $1649 for the Lupold vx6 2-12x42 from Gun City...hah. I'll look at overseas prices. How's the bushnell hold up against the Leupold? Not as good obviously but at 1/3 the price if you reckon $500 then that's impressive. I liked the 3-9 Bushnell I was looking at for my 22. Was about $400 I think.
Tim, you want the 50mm for low light or...?
Cant comment on the vx6 but the bushnell 4200s are on par with vx3 glass.
Speaking of parallax...worth it or no? Some people swear by it and others seem to hate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Probably not for hunting
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... Matty, its a funny one.
See, I love my side focus as I do mainly open plain hunting and have time to adjust.
You may want to forgo this as you are bush hunting? But you mention 500yd shots.. I would get something based on what you will be doing "most" and gear up for that. I have a 3-9*50 for my bush hunting.
Buy the March 2.5-25 in the For Sale section. Its a steal at $2k
FOV
Not necessarily bush hunting. Can't really be bothered with that. But, yeah, I'd like to use it from anywhere from 50m to 500m. So would you suggest AO for that or not? Want an all rounder.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimySquirrel
For one calibre to do a lot of different forms of stalking/hunting I would go with what a mate told me ...
North Island >> .308
South Island >> .270
If you come from Ponsonby >> 7-08
Spend as much as you possibly can ... you only need one rifle for life. Spend around 60% on the rifle, therefore 40% on the scope. Sako are good ... Sauer are the bomb! Keep an eye out on trademe.
270 was my original pick! Why does your mate say 270 for south island? Longer range tops shots or....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunzrrr
Went and played with a few rifles in shops today. Tikka T3's, a Browning X-bolt and a Sako A7. Out of them all I far preferred the X-bolt actually.
Magazines: Extra round in the mag versus the other two + the mag sits flush so the X-bolt wins that one. I did like the feature on the A7 where you need to press up as well to release the mag though. At first I thought why bother, but those mags are expensive so a smart feature to prevent losing one.
Bolts: I liked the bolt the most on the Browning too, the half cock is really...really good. The half cock on the A7 was so easy to go right past for an amateur like me...although I guess you could get used to it. Didn't seem to compete though.
Triggers: The T3 and Sako won here, they were lighter but it was close. Easily fixed with a trigger job I'm told.
Safety's: X-bolt again. Love the safety and the firing indicator. Well located and idiot proof. I also liked the feature of being able to leave the safety on and unlock the bolt to unload, etc.
Stocks: The T3 got hammered here by the other two. X-bolt and A7 both felt great and I especially liked the X-bolts recoil pad - very soft.
So all up it was quite close between Sako and Browning but I liked the X-bolt best. The T3's do really well considering the others are about 50% more expensive. Anyway, just my opinion - I'm sure there's plenty of Sako/Tikka fans!
When I'm back next I'll compare some scopes. So far I'm leaning towards the Leupold VX-6 2-12x but I'll try it alongside the 3-18x and some lower end scopes to see just how bad I want one of those VX-6's.
Xbolt with vx6 is a primo set up!!! Do it!
Cant go wrong with that set up.
But a A7 is hardly a Sako.:(
The X-bolt is very nicely finished but they have been hit or miss when it comes to accuracy. Make sure the shop lets you shoot it before you buy it. If it shoots good then its a FAR better option than the T3 and A7 which are actualy massive heaps of shit!
Buy once cry once...Finlight!
Cheers
Dino
Hi Matty - there is only one way I respond to this question ... and you might've seen it before ...
For one calibre to do a lot of different forms of deer hunting I would go with what a mate told me ...
North Island >> .308
South Island >> .270
If you come from Ponsonby >> 7-08
I have a .308 (& .243 for deer) and I would happily own any/all three of the above. Spend as much as you possibly can ... you only need one rifle for life. Spend around 60% on the rifle, therefore 40% on the scope. Sako are good ... Sauer are the bomb! Keep an eye out on trademe. Keep safe in the hills!
Dino - have your rubber grip inserts peeled yet? I upgraded my Finnlight for a Sauer as it annoyed the hell out of me with the grips peeling off. My Beretta Xtrema has the same style inserts & they are going the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino
lol...Actually a confession
I endd up with a Howa, chopped to 18 inches and supressed, replaced the hougue with a STUG carbon fibre in 75 shape so ended up with a cheap finnlight, kinda! Rifle $800, stock $600 supressor $500
The action on the Sako is quiet a bit nicer but my howa shoots friggin good, it is a good weight and ended up really well balanced, a real pleasure to handle and shoot.
I have been keeping an eye out for a 75 finnlight, if I see one at the right price I could easily be tempted.
Cheers
Dino
Might have to give the finnlights a try too then! You reckon try get them to let me shoot the X-bolt even with the 1 MOA accuracy guarantee?
That guarantee is what made me look at the T3, A7 and X-bolt. They all have it to varying degrees. Don't wanna fork out 3-5k on rifle/scope/silencer and it not shoot straight!
1 MOA guarantees are pretty much just a marketing gimmick IMO... most modern rifles are capable of shooting sub-MOA with ammo they like.
What they're really saying is 'we guarantee that our rifles will shoot about as well as everybody elses', but that doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
And you shot less than MOA with TR's rifle the other day.
True, that thing is crazy - even I put two through the same hole! Be very pleased if anything I got shot near as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
I realize the 1 MOA guarantees are a bit of a gimmick but it does provide a level of reassurance that I would be within my rights to take it back if I forked out and got a dud.
Will try and get them to let me shoot whatever I want to buy. How common is this request these days? Seems like they'd have to go to a range with me out of work hours...but I guess if they want to make a few grand it's worth their while!
I know GC's policy is that you have to pay for it first. I'm pretty sure that the Tikka guarantee was basically that the rifle would shoot sub MOA at the factory with the factories load, either way you'd likely be had pushed to get that honoured in my opinion.
Who's running finnlites? All for spending the few hundy more for the X-bolt over a T3, but an 85 finnlight is nearly twice the price of an X-bolt! I'll have a look but that'd be a tough sell I'm pretty sure, haha.
Probably be sorting this next time I'm back in NZ (late Oct). It can be my 30th badly present to myself. Yeah, that's how I'll justify it.
CZ 550 Lux .270 Win | CZ550LUX270 | Kilwell Sports Ltd
Have a look at one of these too! ;)
went for a A7 over a 85, i could see nothing that justified the 85s 1k markup over a A7.
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Konev
I'm not a fan of the 85's at all, they're rubbish compared to the 75, but they are still light years ahead of the A7.
Ha ha ha.
Having had a 75 and 85 the 85 is my pick by far.
But for the money i would rather have a t3 than a a7 its essentially a Tikka anyway but is dearer and Imho doesn't deserve to wear the Sako name.
And breaks easier than a T3 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Matt,
Just buy a bloody rifle and put this thread to bed, post a pic of your new toy and be done with it.
Patience is a virtue I'm told! Wouldn't know as I have bugger all. I would it's starting to get the better of me but I'm back to Aus tomorrow so you'll have the joy of at least another 3 weeks of this thread!! Muahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300winmag
I've ordered an X-Bolt .308 with one of the new Gen 4 Over Barrel Dan Hardy suppressors (the ones that don't bulge....hopefully!) Just couldn't resist that length.
Having the barrel cut to 20 inches and threaded - can always go shorter but I imagine this'll be fine. Suppressor only goes 8cm forward (3.15 inches). So total length of 23.15 inches. Just a bit over standard.
That's what i've ordered and the day I get back i'm going in to pick out a scope for it. As mentioned previously i've lined up the VX-6's. Both the 2-12x and 3-18x to try out.
Wanna go to the range that day GM :)?
Not .308!!!!!!! Ha ha
Sounds like a plan. We have 100m boards back up now. Better add ammo to the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyP
100m - yay.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
Yes indeed! I'll buy a few different boxes and we can see what it likes.
It'll like all gm's reloads haha
Ssshhh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby
Are you saying I will have to get GM to reload for me!?!? Hahaha.
Sounds like a plan!
Congrats on your order!
A nice VX6 to go on that classy rifle will look good too...