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Anyone got some good ideas on disguising a safe? I'm about to start building our house so it's the perfect time to make something.
I was thinking a decoy safe would be good, just with a JW15 in it without bolt and have my good safe hidden. I'd be devestated if my guns got stolen regardless of them being insured. Concealment and misdirection are probably just as good as safe structure, can't take them if they don't find them.
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Seem some great ideas online, bookcases, couches emptied out, fridge/freezers
The best I've seen (and I've seen thousands) is a bookcase about 1.5 metres high that swung open (operated by a secret switch) to reveal a small space where the metal gun cabinet was securely fasted to the wall studs and the floor.
I like the old concealed under the stairs with a blank door trick. Have the door from floor to ceiling and disguise the opening amongst vertical panelling. No handle obviously. Make door plenty big enough so that you can open the safe door easily.
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High heels and a blonde wig, borow @Rushys :D
False wall on the side of the wardrobe.
Maybe you need to go on some of the drug and gang raids to see how they hide them :D
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Or build a bookshelf frame that wraps around the safe but can still open up like above.
Or if the safe is in a separate room, make the entry door to that room more fortified and more securely locked. So it's not a typical house internal door. In the old house I used to keep the A cat one in a cupboard that used to hold the water cylinder, then eventually moved everything into the man cave with a secure door and frame.
Personally I wouldn't worry about a dummy safe with an old rifle in it.
I leant them to Maca for a date he had a couple of moths back Gibo and the bugger didn't give them back. He has the fishnets as well.Quote:
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im about to undertake the same exercise and ive come up with the following -a concealed swing out ful llength pitcure of her indoors 100%starkers -a 130 Dbsiren-3x CO2 fire extinguishers 1x headheight 2x groin level.if that dont fuck a slimy arsewipe space invader up then nought will ,or theyre 100%certifiable in which case torment will involve a single room with me serving tucker minus false teeth and dribbling from both sides of me mouth!
ah hold on did I mention my leopard skin g-string and me chainsaw with a 20"bar-20""its the bloody chainsaw ya duffus not me!
Apparently the lowlifes in the street are "scared??????" of me.
Im buggered if i know why-might have something to do with a pox ridden gorilla who looked like michael Jackson who loved to abuse from a distance,then one day turned up asking my son to fix the motor on his piece of shit.
son(a vindictive sort)told him to fuckorfski and furthermore that Id(Dad) said I couldnt understand why the loser who sired him hadnt shot the load onto a hot tin fence to marinate in the sun!
my last sight of cunthooks was an anorexic thing in a white crimplene tracksuit with MM colours on his back.Did they sanction this???????????
the fucking tragedy is after him and his horrendous teatleaf fucked off it was found their HNZ unit was a thriving p lab-!
this may be a long sermon but in short-its my property and if you want to"five finger discount it cunt" -im very creative in attempting to stop you
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Just google Disguised gunsafes. then images. where I got the idea for making my safe look like a gas tank converted to a fireplace in the garage. I also have my old gunsafe still in the bedroom in plain site with a old 303 that has a slightly bent barrel. Firearms officer got shown both.
When we build our next house in a few years its going to be fortified Rammed earth and an entire room will get fortified into a walkin gunroom,steel rods embedded in all the walls.Always wanted one.
I'm a fan of subterfuge. I like the idea of a decoy safe, particularly one that is able to attract any would-be criminal's attention so that they focus their time and attention on it, hopefully making a big racket in the process.
As for disguising the main safe - there are plenty of ideas on the internet on how to do it. I'm pretty sure that you can think like a criminal and come up with something imaginative for your own requirements (e.g. strictly disguise or disguise and ease of accessibility etc).
Nah I have to agree with the decoy safe. If you get burgled and your place is like mine, the burglar is going to find reloading gear, brass for Africa, hiking boots, frozen unlabeled meat in the freezer, etc etc all sorts of shit pointing to there being firearms in the house. If you don't give them something to find, they will look until they find what you don't want them to find!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kscott
I always thought the best place for a concealed entrance to a safe would be in the downstairs/spare loo. It's a room many houses have, easy for a burglar to glance into, see that it's empty, and immediately write off and keep going somewhere else (and unless they are absolutely clamping off a gigantic turd, unlikely to spend any time in there..) instead of investigating further. We got burgled years ago and they even had a nosey in the bloody washing machine! Those types of loo tend to be crammed into wherever they will fit within the space of the house, like at the bottom of stairs, kinks in the corridor, that kind of thing. These would also be the best place to confuse a burglar re the void that's missing, if you know what I mean.
The other idea to think on is when people think safe, tall and skinny. Rip the insides out of a couch and bolt safe to floor and wall on its side then cover with couch cushions. Would love a hidden room / safe but don't have the room to really do it well
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my god man ..!!!! is any of this english?
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Albino American bulldog?
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Nuff said.
Nice but I bet it's not cheap, or made / able to be imported into nzQuote:
Originally Posted by Freezer
While those are very cool they are not actually locked as such and Id say pretty easy to break into.Quote:
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And if you lose a firearm having stored it in one, you are in a world of shit. Stupid thing is, it's probably way better than an eyebolt in a rafter or a chain around a joist...Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Guns to protect, babies to be eaten... Multi purposeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Dogs get poisoned all the time.Two of ours were,luckily they just never got to the other 6.
And if they find reloading gear or suspect there is a firearms safe in the house they will keep looking till they find it. Safes hidden behind cabinets/mirrors are not exactly unknown these days.In the city making noise might be an issue but out here rurally if no one is home they could make all the noise they wanted to.
Over the past 2 years alone we have had 2 quads nicked at different times,hundreds of litres of diesel gone,chainsaws,wet weather gear,boat engine and a tandem trailer loaded up with our firewood, but im determined they will not get my hunting gear.We now have a decoy diesel tank full of water for thieves to help themselves,so why not a decoy safe as well for them to find and some old gear just might satisfy them.
Often thought, if I get into reloading, to have some handy squib loads for them to find as well to bugger anything they fire them in.:D
Yeah big problem when one of your kids or kids mate at school that he blabbed to wants to have a play.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Reason I mentioned that dog was one of the farmers near us in Sth America had one, it was chained to its kennel behind the house and they were robbed, the guys that did it knew the dog was there and thought they could throw it some food with poison in it (think it was just sleeping pills, enough to kill a dog though) and they thought since the dog was chained up they could get away with it anyhow, what they didnt know was that even though the dog wasnt acting agressively, he was pissed off they were there, and wouldnt have a bar of any of the food they threw to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by oneipete
They entered the house anyway, the dog managed to pull its kennel clean off the warratahs it was wired to and dragged it around the front of the house, went straight through the glass ranchslider still with its kennel in tow, and if it wasnt for the kennel getting stuck in the doorway I think at least one of the perpetrators prabably wouldnt have lived to tell the tale, left a pretty grisly looking scene, blood from both the dog and one of the theives all over the place, broken glass everywhere, and the dog had actualy nearly bled out by the time they came home as he had cut open one of his front legs pretty bad on his way through the ranchslider.
Guarantee every degenerate within a 500 mile radius put that house on their "fuck that shit" list.
If theres a good chance that someone is going to have a go at robbing me I would find it comforting knowing that they are gonna get their day ruined rather than just tricked by a dummy gunsafe.
Something like this as a base - E cat safe. | Trade Me Chuck it underneath a box of old newspapers and hey presto
And I do like the idea of a dummy gunsafe, especially if it just has a stuffed old air rifle and a bent barreled 303 with no bolt. Oh and and a couple of 140 db sirens on a reed switch, hooked to a motorbike battery, sitting inside the separate ammo compartment up top, so once it goes off they can't get to it. Cost about $10 total from Jaycar
That's a cool concept. Unless it floods.Quote:
Originally Posted by ubique
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Yeah that wouldn't be ideal. But setting it flush/ slightly recessed in a concrete slab floor, with DPM wrap in ground and even a silicon seal around the door itself should drop your chances there. If you were really keen you could even have it set recessed in a concrete slab floor with tiles and have a tile as a lid over the safe itself
Don't get me wrong.. im all for having Cujo or even an angry bear to deal to thieving mongrels on my property. Remember this is pc nz though ,where the crims are poor little hard done by inocents all misunderstood cos they were smacked once as a kid who have all the rights and play the victim. It would be me who ends up copping it worst.
If you go the decoy safe way, you cant just have crap in there though,im sure the crims realize a flash house with reloading gear means you don't just have a rusty air rifle.and if they find ammo for 223/308/300 win mag they gonna realise its not for the old 303.
Shit I mite have to start locking my ute in the drive
I'd have to take the keys out... Then I'm guna lose the bloody thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by longrange308
Just what every home owner needs, an Uzi in the bottom drawer!
If you manage to conceal your safe well, you could leave a big sign above your reloading bench: "no guns in the house, they are all at my mother in law's place"
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