Thread: From E-Cat to A-Cat?

hopefully they come to their senses, and just make high cap mags an E requirement, so surely they must realise a pistol grip or adjustable stock, or hell even a flash hider, doesnt make any firearm any more dangerous.
anything with mag over 7rnd centerfire or 15 rimfire is E-cat. and done. end of story.

will never happen tho.

Originally Posted by Haydendev

hopefully they come to their senses, and just make high cap mags an E requirement, so surely they must realise a pistol grip or adjustable stock, or hell even a flash hider, doesnt make any firearm any more dangerous.
anything with mag over 7rnd centerfire or 15 rimfire is E-cat. and done. end of story.

will never happen tho.

That would be too sensible though, common sense even!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Haydendev

hopefully they come to their senses, and just make high cap mags an E requirement, so surely they must realise a pistol grip or adjustable stock, or hell even a flash hider, doesnt make any firearm any more dangerous.
anything with mag over 7rnd centerfire or 15 rimfire is E-cat. and done. end of story.

will never happen tho.

wickd , best statement on this forum this week ,we should all get behind that idea!!!!

All of these things should be classed as an E cat all you need is the 20rnd mag that has been sitting in the draw for the last 20 years to be put in it to make it E cat they are both the same weapon just a bigger mag

Originally Posted by 260rem

All of these things should be classed as an E cat all you need is the 20rnd mag that has been sitting in the draw for the last 20 years to be put in it to make it E cat they are both the same weapon just a bigger mag

way to miss the point entirely

Originally Posted by 30calterry

wickd , best statement on this forum this week ,we should all get behind that idea!!!!

We can get behind the idea all we want, but the new act has already been passed and submitted for assent, come the start of November, even if the police do absolutely nothing there will be a solid portion of the firearms owning population of New Zealand turned into criminals overnight.

Originally Posted by Monsterbishi

We can get behind the idea all we want, but the new act has already been passed and submitted for assent, come the start of November, even if the police do absolutely nothing there will be a solid portion of the firearms owning population of New Zealand turned into criminals overnight.

lets hope there r sme clean cut lines between the cats , and a period of time to be one or the other

Originally Posted by Haydendev

hopefully they come to their senses, and just make high cap mags an E requirement, so surely they must realise a pistol grip or adjustable stock, or hell even a flash hider, doesnt make any firearm any more dangerous.
anything with mag over 7rnd centerfire or 15 rimfire is E-cat. and done. end of story.

will never happen tho.

When you write:

'...................anything with mag over 7rnd centerfire or 15 rimfire is E-cat. and done. end of story.."

be cautious and remember to mention the other bits (there are many but to give you my gist, bayonet attachment) before some dimwit says, "Hey my Lee Enfield has a 10 shot centre fire magazine and a bayonet attachment so it must be an E cat!"

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

When you write:

'...................anything with mag over 7rnd centerfire or 15 rimfire is E-cat. and done. end of story.."

be cautious and remember to mention the other bits (there are many but to give you my gist, bayonet attachment) before some dimwit says, "Hey my Lee Enfield has a 10 shot centre fire magazine and a bayonet attachment so it must be an E cat!"

Once again (common sense app engaged) I would suggest the word " Semi Automatic" was left out between the words "Anything" and "with" because we all know what was meant.
Basing things on Magazine size / action type is an easy and simple approach. Forget about the nasty evil mind control bayo lug and or pistol grip thing.

Simple test should be if its semi and you have a big mag in/on or near it and no E cat you are toast

Arguing over semantics of things is point less.

I would argue you are either "Fit and Proper" to hold a firearms licence or you are NOT.


There are not "Degrees" of "fit and properness"

I mean I have A, B and E endorsements, if you think that makes me any more fit and proper than someone with only a Std licence then you are mad.

All it actually means is I had a more thorough background check as part of my application and (most likely) have better security, and it gets inspected every year.