Just got a call from Firearms Licensing to arrange the routine 3 year audit. Seems a bit odd they're still doing them since E cat endorsements no longer exist and MSSA's no longer exist.
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Just got a call from Firearms Licensing to arrange the routine 3 year audit. Seems a bit odd they're still doing them since E cat endorsements no longer exist and MSSA's no longer exist.
Behind the 8 ball I would say. I emailed NZPHQ to advise them I had imported items listed in my import permits and they replied saying thank you for advising, but the permits are now cancelled following the law change.
WTF? :wtfsmilie:
So you only have(had) E, not B? If they are checking E only, this should suggest E is currently still in existence perhaps until the end of the amnesty? Have you asked them to explain this? MSSAs still exist, just a whole lot more of them than there were!Quote:
Originally Posted by Recoil
The inspections for E endorsement holder will still occur to confirm the location for the MSSA firearms that are registered and not collected yet.
It kind of makes since to me.
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Except there is no such thing any more as an MSSA. The former MSSA's are now legally just as any other outlawed semi-auto centrefire. There is no E cat and therefore no E cat audits in law. Also means you can store the now-unlawful firearm as per A cat standard of storage -- which is the only legal storage standard , aside from B cat which still exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uplandstalker
Continuing to store the firearm securely is probably a condition of the amnesty.
I would have protested, but if it's the same guy as last time I'll enjoy the chin wag :thumbsup:
Of course the irony of Police auditing former E cat endorsement holders to ensure secure storage of prohibited firearms is not lost on people this week.
If you know the fellah well then you have a chance to probe how he and his associates on the ground feel about what has happened in the last couple of months. I for one would like to know.
Hopefully they begin the audit at Palmerston North Station.
Is that the same place they kept that bull? The one that got out on the Auckland motorway :yaeh am not durnk:
I just had my storage( A cat) checked last week. Guy doing the check did not seem too enthused about the whole thing. Think he was pretty septic over the whole your fired..... sorry please come back thing. Said going away from dealing with people face to face was a big fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Stupid thing is MSSA endorsement is now defunct/void and mssa's banned due to their law change. However if you are a "professional pest controller/culler" you can still have them.
So what endorsement are they covered under then?
Where's the exemption in law or is that a rumour you've heard?Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Dont forget about the new ‘G’(ang) category of licenseQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
Exemption for professionals is written in the new legislation. But what endorsement they will be under is a mystery to allQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
I don't recall seeing any exemption in the law. I'll have a look sometimeQuote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Exemption classes for prohibited firearms from Police website;
A licensed dealer, or an employee or agent of a licensed dealer.
A bona fide collector of firearms.
A person to whom a prohibited item has special significance as an heirloom or memento.
A director or curator of a bona fide museum.
An approved employee or member of a broadcaster (within the meaning of the Broadcasting Act 1989) or a bona fide theatre company, society, cinematic, television film production company, or video recording production company.
A person who is employed or engaged by the Department of Conservation and involved in operations for the purpose of controlling wild animals or animal pests. (In accordance with the Wildlife Act 1953, the Wild Animal Control 1977, the Conservation Act 1987, or the Biosecurity Act 1993)
A person who is the holder of a concession granted by the Minister of Conservation to undertake wild animal recovery operations (In accordance with the Wildlife Act 1953, the Wild Animal Control 1977, the Conservation Act 1987, or the Biosecurity Act 1993)
A person who is employed or engaged by a management agency as defined in section 100 of the Biosecurity Act 1993 and involved in operations for the purpose of controlling wild animals or animal pests in accordance with that Act.
A person whose sole business, or a substantial part of whose business, is providing services to control prescribed wild animals or animal pests, or a person employed or engaged by that person for that purpose. Prescribed animals are wild deer, chamois, tahr, wild pigs, wild goats, wallaby, feral rabbit, feral hare, and Canadian Geese.
The most reliable source of info about guns :) I've downloaded the pdf so will find out soonQuote:
Originally Posted by Paddy79
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Originally Posted by cambo
Hearing rumors that it will be a new endorsement G .
Na it will be new endorsement "P" :ORLY: after all if they are decriminalising drugs then why not kills Pests while on P?:wtfsmilie:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint Ruin
Arms (Prohibited Firearms, Magazines, and Parts) Amendment Act 2019 No 12, Public Act – New Zealand LegislationQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
Section 4A
I wonder if all with the MSSA (E-Cat) endorsement will automatically get the new endorsement?
Considering the costs to get that MSSA endorsement and the extra hurdles to jump, they'll either have to pay out or endorse with whatever the new 1 will be called.
Id say nope no way in hell, unless your employed as pest control you wont get to use a semi auto centrefire ever again legally unless you join the army, and they will not pay out for your old endorsement or $$$$ forked for endorsed safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Well look at that........WILD ANIMAL CONTROL! Himmmmm deer thar etc no longer called pests:thumbsup: also control not eradicate :)
Cheers. Saw that... Kind of over looked it the first time I read it when it was fresh off the press as I would never qualify lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
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Originally Posted by Russian 22.
That seems to be the whole idea.
It is still possible the second tranche might squeeze in a slightly wider range of exemptions, still worth hassling our MPs about it.