Thread: Euro mounts

Are there any gunsmiths in NZ who can build scope mounts from scratch, install European claw mounts, or know a thing or two about quick detach systems - EAW, Recknagel, Ziegler etc,etc.

Allen Carr isn't available atm due to taking time off work. Who else is there?

Stuff like this:

Maybe Hugh Bradley in Alex could be worth a try.

I could do that easy

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

I could do that easy

I got one of those flash Dewalt Drill sets we could use and a old Hitachi angle grinder

Originally Posted by Sarvo

I got one of those flash Dewalt Drill sets we could use and a old Hitachi angle grinder

Flexi disk on a five inch ,world's ya oyster

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No amount of drilling or grinding will get this derailed thread back on track.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

I could do that easy

You can't even tie your shoes m8.

While I'm not a gunsmith, I have some experience fitting small parts. If you have the patients you can do somethings yourself. I I recut a set of Weaver steel high rings to mount a low power scope on a drilling. The drilling had high claw mounts, while suitable for hunting out of a blind they were totally useless for a fast handling still hunting rig. The new rings I made changed the whole dynamics of the gun more suitable for my hunting style.

Scope and new rings I recut, this was a long job, one stroke of the file, re-blacken, fit and another stroke of the file near the end.



It did turn out working well, group was at 100 yards (90 meters)



Original scope(6x48mm) on rifle, too high for quick mounting and good cheek-weld the scopes are interchangeable with no loss of zero.

Originally Posted by AWS

While I'm not a gunsmith, I have some experience fitting small parts. If you have the patients you can do somethings yourself. I I recut a set of Weaver steel high rings to mount a low power scope on a drilling. The drilling had high claw mounts, while suitable for hunting out of a blind they were totally useless for a fast handling still hunting rig. The new rings I made changed the whole dynamics of the gun more suitable for my hunting style.

Scope and new rings I recut, this was a long job, one stroke of the file, re-blacken, fit and another stroke of the file near the end.

Attachment 109855

It did turn out working well, group was at 100 yards (90 meters)

Attachment 109856

Original scope(6x48mm) on rifle, too high for quick mounting and good cheek-weld the scopes are interchangeable with no loss of zero.

Attachment 109857

@AWS - I'm not brave enough to do any of it myself at the moment (at least not on my main rifle). That said, I'm quite keen on learning some traditional gunsmithing techniques/wood working in the future.

Nice job on the mounts! Who made the rifle? It looks lovely. There's nothing quite like a well broken-in wood/blue firearm.

@Frodo I wanted some for mine. But the cost even here is
Seen them in action in France on driven Boar there great for when you change stands, going from open space where you need a scope to in close where a irons sights are needed.
The only bugger is that front ring can change with each scope.

I think I'll get some Ziegler quick detach mounts. They're basically the same as claw mounts, but the rings and bases are already perfectly mated together during manufacturing. Whereas with traditional 'Suhler' claw mounts, the rings and bases require precise fitting so that they hook together perfectly.

The Zieglers are CNC machined and the bases and rings already fit perfectly from factory. So the only fitting required is between the bases and your rifles reciever (to ensure that the reciever of your rifle makes full contact with the underside of the bases)...which isn't half as demanding as squaring up a tiny hooking mechanism.

They're also much lower than pivot mounts (i.e EAW's).

Originally Posted by Sideshow

@Frodo I wanted some for mine. But the cost even here is
Seen them in action in France on driven Boar there great for when you change stands, going from open space where you need a scope to in close where a irons sights are needed.
The only bugger is that front ring can change with each scope.

Yeah, they're prohibitively pricey aye. Plan is to switch between an Aimpoint Micro and a rail mounted scope - hence after a reliable quick detach system.

From what I understand, Ziegler offers claw mounts which either attach to the scope objective bell or the tube? I'm still swinging towards a rail mounted scope though.

How are you finding the red dot on your BSA? Still running it?

@Frodo Year still runing both and I did actually look at those Zeigler mounts.
But in the end I just went with some Warne quick detach rings. They work really well no lose of zero. Easy to swap over. Ive even brought my other scope back from NZ so that I can run three scopes on the rifle.
1 Long range
2 Short range wood/bush scope
3 My red dot for driven boar
Dont worry I still see the attraction of euro mounts its the look ah! It just goes with these classic rifles when are you upgrading your barrel from that no classic pooseventy to 7X57

A qoute from Dante
"A man who prefers a 270 over a 7x57 aint got no sole And will probably go to the fires of hell"!

@Sideshow

Lol. Now you're putting ideas in my head. :/ Nah I'll switch it to 7x57 once I've worn out the current barrel.

Yes - it is all about looks to be honest, and the fact that I'm not very good at making compromises.

Even though you're using a different style of mount, it sounds like you're making the most of the quick detach system. I think it'll be handy having multiple bits of glass tailored for different things...rather than expect one scope to do it all.

The drilling I did the rings for is a JP Sauer 1950's in 16ga/16ga/7x57R.