Thread: Ever wondered why H&H takes years to make a gun?

Originally Posted by Cordite

Haha, nae chance, what wi' ma hint a' Glasweg'un 'n' Geordy. Traditions perhaps. My great grandfather died on the Somme, perhaps dropping an Enfield like one of mine. His son drowned in the Atlantic in the next war, courtesy of the Thor. Not really glorious, more futile, but family history all the same. My Enfields, having them or not, changes nothing about where I come from, but they are a link back to real people -- none of whom were Commissioned Officers, or H&H owners with old money.

Btw given your eloquent well reasoned answer above, who's 'middle class'?

I am your father Luke, join meeeeh!

I didn't mean you specifically! I meant that one doesnt have pretensions of class because one owns a shotgun - unless one does have pretensions of class. It depends on the owner. Some people buy Porsches because they like the cars, others because they think their neighbours will be impressed.

Put it this way; just because you own a .303 doesn't mean your not a snob.

I have a commission from the Queen, and was an officer at one stage, but you need more than that to be upper class!

The English class system your refering to doesnt really exist anymore. WW2 caused its death, and the Sixties finished it off. There are still vestiges of remaining, but you can no longer get hired because your carrying the right kind of umbrella...
Us NZ'rs didn't bring the class system with us, so its a foreign notion to Kiwis anyway. If your proud of being working class in NZ, it means you don't really know what working class means, for example.
Who's middle class? Basically everyone in NZ could be considered middle class, but the term becomes muddy and referenceless since society has changed so much since the 1930's. And we don't really understand the subtleties of it in this country to be honest.

(And it's a Lee Enfield. An Enfield is a muzzleloading rifle from the 19th Century.)