Exactly how illegal is it to shoot C-Cat guns?

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23-10-2018, 10:01 AM
Marty Henry

Thanks @Moa Hunter just spent the last hour scrolling Queen on you tube phuquing genius that man.
23-10-2018, 10:08 AM
Max Headroom

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

If a person wants to ask a question they shouldn't be castigated for their lack of knowledge by others who have more knowledge. If that carries on then the whole forum is fucked.

Yes. Exactly.
23-10-2018, 10:16 AM
northdude

If we really want to get all wanky about it you could say the majority of quetions on here are stupid and if we get homos here wanting to get all negative about it just brings the whole forum down instead of trying to prove how bigger dickbag you can be in a post dont bother posting sure for most of it you can Google your question but asking on here usually generates some conversation and different points of view and helps us get to know each other if you didnt have the questions this place would die
23-10-2018, 10:30 AM
Steve123

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Originally Posted by northdude

If we really want to get all wanky about it you could say the majority of quetions on here are stupid and if we get homos here wanting to get all negative about it just brings the whole forum down instead of trying to prove how bigger dickbag you can be in a post dont bother posting sure for most of it you can Google your question but asking on here usually generates some conversation and different points of view and helps us get to know each other if you didnt have the questions this place would die

Exactly, What may sound stupid to some people may help others. I'm just amazed that this thread has gone this far.
It's now devolved into people arguing about how to argue.
23-10-2018, 10:35 AM
ebf

hehe, been away for a couple of days and reading all the replies after the fact is pretty funny.

really depends on how much you value your firearms license, and as others have stated - easy enough to go to Vegas or Cambodia and get your rocks off if full-auto is your thing.

always amazes me how silly some firearms owners can be about breaking the rules. seen several A-cat guys using E-cat mags at field/hunting events and think nothing of it. at a recent comp for a different discipline I went to, one of the guys had an obviously too short firearm and was quite proud to admit that he did not have a B endorsement. kinda boggles the mind, it is really not that hard to get the correct endorsement and do things the right way...
23-10-2018, 11:00 AM
northdude

And theres plenty of stupid answers as well
23-10-2018, 12:28 PM
mikee

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Originally Posted by ebf

really depends on how much you value your firearms license, and as others have stated - easy enough to go to Vegas or Cambodia and get your rocks off if full-auto is your thing..

Yeah I gave it a crack in USSR in 1994, honestly it was quite boring in the end, once you have dumped a mag or 2 its like "ök what now"
Never took up the offer of firing a Tank main gun (wish I had now). Best thing was arranging to have a crack on the controls of the company Mil 8 for a carton of smokes. Lets just say I am not a natural needs more practice there :D
23-10-2018, 12:43 PM
Cordite

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

If a person wants to ask a question they shouldn't be castigated for their lack of knowledge by others who have more knowledge. If that carries on then the whole forum is fucked.

Not just unhelpful on the forum, also for families, workplaces, places of study.

From where I was reading, it was not so much castigation for "lack of knowledge", but for actually knowing the rule and sounding like contemplating breaking it - hypothetically of course. (-:
23-10-2018, 01:51 PM
ebf

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Originally Posted by mikee

Best thing was arranging to have a crack on the controls of the company Mil 8 for a carton of smokes. Lets just say I am not a natural needs more practice there :D

Is there such a thing as a "natural" heli pilot ?

I've always thought they are all slightly insane and have a screw-or-3 loose :P
23-10-2018, 02:03 PM
2post

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Originally Posted by Phil_H

I agree with the above and the sentiment of "on a back road miles from anyone........"
The only issue is just about everyone drives or has a car. You get caught and it is just someone getting a speeding ticket.

Getting caught doing something illegal with a firearm, and more so if you actually have a firearms licence, has greater repercussions than the speeding ticket.
All manner of shit starts to fall on all the rest of legal firearm owners.
The media makes a meal of it and wrings out every salacious detail, in essence scare-mongering.......its what sells news.
The general public once more start questioning why we have firearms in the first place.
The hand wringing phobic anti gun lobby start rattling politicians cages.
The Police have further ammunition - no pun intended - for their view of tighter firearm control.

Want a thrill? Get in a car on a lonely back country road and go for it.
But before you go to get your thrill with a firearm, think about the far reaching consequences if you do get caught.

Am I making sense or am I a bit over the top? Feel free to "sanity check" me.

Worse still you’ll get posted on here by systolic
23-10-2018, 02:05 PM
R93

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Originally Posted by ebf

Is there such a thing as a "natural" heli pilot ?

I've always thought they are all slightly insane and have a screw-or-3 loose :P

Bibble

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23-10-2018, 02:29 PM
2post

I have always found hypothetical question hard to answer. I say try it and let us know what happens. You’ll get get a job in prison faster than you thought but it’ll be making number plates.
23-10-2018, 02:47 PM
mikee

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Originally Posted by R93

Bibble

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We rest our case :D
23-10-2018, 03:10 PM
R93

Signs of intelligence [emoji1]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...18de85df76.jpg

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23-10-2018, 03:23 PM
ebf

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Originally Posted by R93

Signs of intelligence

Rich coming from a guy who thinks it is normal to go to work in a whirling rotating mess of bolts, nuts and scissor blades... :D
23-10-2018, 03:28 PM
R93

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Originally Posted by ebf

Rich coming from a guy who thinks it is normal to go to work in a whirling rotating mess of bolts, nuts and scissor blades... :D

Fair point[emoji16]
Lately it is fair to say I have been content sitting on the ground tho.

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23-10-2018, 05:44 PM
Creeper

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Originally Posted by R93

Fair point[emoji16]
Lately it is fair to say I have been content sitting on the ground tho.

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That's what happens when you bend them.

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23-10-2018, 06:07 PM
R93

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Originally Posted by Creeper

That's what happens when you bend them.

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3 lives lost is a bit more serious than bending one. Have some fucking class FFS

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23-10-2018, 06:58 PM
Moa Hunter

People who use machine guns are often cow haters
https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rc...iddoxxajl0yTmX
23-10-2018, 07:14 PM
Moa Hunter

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Thanks @Moa Hunter just spent the last hour scrolling Queen on you tube phuquing genius that man.

Well @Marty Henry, continuing with 'the theme of a song for every occasion' may I offer the following as a salutary warning for 'full auto' fantasizers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZI54Y8qf70
23-10-2018, 08:42 PM
mikee

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

People who use machine guns are often cow haters
https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rc...iddoxxajl0yTmX

maybe cause some cows are ........................................ scary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI
23-10-2018, 11:05 PM
outlander

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Originally Posted by mikee

maybe cause some cows are ........................................ scary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI

Reckon I'll give my tiny herd of steers a good old hug in the morning.
23-10-2018, 11:15 PM
TheWuce

I love this thread.
23-10-2018, 11:23 PM
Russian 22.

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Originally Posted by Steve123

Join the TF?

I am actually considering that once I am a bit older and can take the time off work.

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23-10-2018, 11:33 PM
Preacher

How is this even "hypothetically" still a thread? The answer is and will probably always remain a solid No. Want to fire on automatic, join the Army. Don't want to do that then thread is still retarded in the first place.

It is against the law to own and fire fully automatic live firing weapons in New Zealand. Pretty simple really.
24-10-2018, 12:00 AM
TheWuce

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Originally Posted by Preacher

How is this even "hypothetically" still a thread? The answer is and will probably always remain a solid No. Want to fire on automatic, join the Army. Don't want to do that then thread is still retarded in the first place.

Clean your panties out babe.

Open question: do the DOC boys culling from helicopters use full autos? Why or why not?
24-10-2018, 12:28 AM
Moutere

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Originally Posted by TheWuce

Open question: do the DOC boys culling from helicopters use full autos? Why or why not?

No they don't, as you now know its not allowed for under legislation.
24-10-2018, 12:30 AM
timattalon

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Originally Posted by TheWuce

Clean your panties out babe.

Open question: do the DOC boys culling from helicopters use full autos? Why or why not?

Nope. Using shotguns on semi auto. Because its easier to hi a moving target with buck shot, and they dont have time to haze that many tahr.

Why not? several reasons- 1st and primarily- they are not included in the laws and exemptions that allow the armed forces to use them, means under no circumstances would they be allowed. 2nd, I seriously doubt they would have the budget for that, and 3rd, because the helicopters available would not have enough room for all the new doc employees that would sign up just to see if they can "have a shot at it". let alone the budget for the ammo they will undoubtedly burn through.

With reference to the first one, it could have been easier to train soldiers to shoot Tahr, and treat it as a combines DoC cull, and a Military training excercise. If they retrieved the carcasses, they could also feed the armed forces as well. (survival training on how to process food behind enemy lines...?)

All said tongue in cheek, just in case anyone takes it personally....
24-10-2018, 12:34 AM
TheWuce

And here I was imagining them massacring wallabies with a minigun.

Just kidding, though I had assumed they got the "required for my job" excemption. Seems a lot more humane to triple tap them with full auto or at least burst fire to make sure they don't get gut shot and die slowly and painfully but what do I know.
24-10-2018, 12:34 AM
outlander

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Originally Posted by TheWuce

Clean your panties out babe.

Open question: do the DOC boys culling from helicopters use full autos? Why or why not?

I really don't know, but I'd hope not. My experience firing 7.62x51 on full auto with an R1 with a 20/30 rd magazine would lead to mostly xero hits from a moving helicopter and we only carried around 250 rounds each, so they disappeared real quick. A door gunner with either 7.62x51 or 50 cal and many canisters for effect is the go. Even with feet placed firmly on the ground and firing an R5 ( 5.56) with a 30/40/50 rd mag on full auto will see few hits on a life sized target at 25 metres. Practice does help, but very few old soldiers or police would contemplate more than 4 or 5 round bursts. Semi auto is way more sensible.
24-10-2018, 07:58 AM
ebf

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Originally Posted by TheWuce

Just kidding, though I had assumed they got the "required for my job" excemption. Seems a lot more humane to triple tap them with full auto or at least burst fire to make sure they don't get gut shot and die slowly and painfully but what do I know.

Not a whole lot when it comes to firearm sit seems...

Full auto fire is not exactly an accurate way of shooting, despite what you see in the movies...

Having said that, most culling operations are not really concerned with ethical shot placement.
24-10-2018, 08:27 AM
Cordite

I found a full auto legal loophole!!! Airsoft!
24-10-2018, 08:45 AM
Moa Hunter

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Originally Posted by Preacher

How is this even "hypothetically" still a thread? The answer is and will probably always remain a solid No. Want to fire on automatic, join the Army. Don't want to do that then thread is still retarded in the first place.

It is against the law to own and fire fully automatic live firing weapons in New Zealand. Pretty simple really.

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Well Preacher you need to be converted not us. 'Man Speak' is statistically 90% humour mixed with 10% facts. Lets all keep it at that ratio and avoid the 'lesbian speak'
24-10-2018, 08:58 AM
Cordite

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

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Well Preacher you need to be converted not us. 'Man Speak' is statistically 90% humour mixed with 10% facts. Lets all keep it at that ratio and avoid the 'lesbian speak'

That is just sooooo abusive speech. It should be shut down, suppressed, outlawed. Help! I'm melting!!! [snowflake metamorphoses into snowdrop]
24-10-2018, 09:21 AM
Max Headroom

@TheWuce, like your avatar.
24-10-2018, 10:05 AM
Beetroot

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Originally Posted by TheWuce

Clean your panties out babe.

Open question: do the DOC boys culling from helicopters use full autos? Why or why not?

Do you suffer from incontinence yourself or just have a fetish for people shitting their pants?
24-10-2018, 10:16 AM
Koshogi

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Originally Posted by ebf

at a recent comp for a different discipline I went to, one of the guys had an obviously too short firearm and was quite proud to admit that he did not have a B endorsement. kinda boggles the mind, it is really not that hard to get the correct endorsement and do things the right way...

The legal determination of length for rifles is still before the courts, so if this rifle was >762mm with a stock extended, he may not be in breach of any law. So, he wouldn't need a B endorsement.

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24-10-2018, 01:31 PM
TheWuce

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Originally Posted by ebf

Not a whole lot when it comes to firearm sit seems...

Full auto fire is not exactly an accurate way of shooting, .

Several round bursts on full auto is plenty accurate for what I was describing.

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Originally Posted by Beetroot

Do you suffer from incontinence yourself or just have a fetish for people shitting their pants?

Why not both?
24-10-2018, 03:27 PM
ebf

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Originally Posted by TheWuce

Several round bursts on full auto is plenty accurate for what I was describing.

:ORLY: and how would you know this ?
24-10-2018, 03:31 PM
TheWuce

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Originally Posted by ebf

:ORLY: and how would you know this ?

There's this magical new thing called YouTube where people like IV88 and Eric Pettway regularly fire and discuss the accuracy potential of full auto guns. Crazy right?

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