Like others have said, dont buy a package with a crap scope. Either get the bare rifle or try get a deal with a upgraded scope . No brand names, gun city scopes etc are just shit. A scope thats around 400-599 would be the min i be looking at. Vortex, Bushnell, leupold, Burris, Weaver all very good and maybe a redfield as bottom line. Certain models of some rifles are crap and should be avoided. Savage axis and Remington 770 are two that come to mind. Howa are good value, T3 very good and Remington 700 are fine as well as is a few other brands.
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