Thread: FFP scope options - recommendations

Most scopes I have & have used are SFP. Have had the occasional play with FFP but mostly stuck with SFP - VX6, VX5, Swaro, Bushnell, Burris, Zeiss, etc. Noodling with trying a FFP on one of my longer range bangers & looking for advice about options & what’s worth looking at. Prefer something like 3-15 or 18x, 30 mm tube (not 34! If I can avoid it). Don’t like Xmas tree reticles. What’s out there that you rate?

Ps this is not a “want to buy” post, I’m interested in your experience and feedback on various FFP scopes.

March F 3-24, can be had with 40 or 50mm objective, and nice clean FML reticle.


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Actually 42 and 52mm objectives sorry.

Meopta optika6 3-18x50 is cheaper option, but more complex reticle.


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I have a Burris Veracity 2-10 FFP I really like it and feel its good value for money.

My thoughts re the FFP. I like that the hold over dots stay the same irrespective of zoom, howevery I tend to dial rather than use hold over.
(need to change this habit and make up a card)
When it's on 2 power the reticle is quite fine, mine is still very clear at 2x and in low light. This could be an issue if your retical is a bit grey, (not black and crisp or illuminated)
On the other hand when on 10 power the retical is the full width of the image and looks coarser.

On my 2-10x To ensure precsion Burris have taken a leaf out of the old school German 4. The retical is quite thick on the outside and very fine in the centre using a taper of all 4 arms.
When zoomed out 2x the retical is only in the middle of the glass and you can't really see the fine dots. (you don't need to as this is for bush shooting at 2x )



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Its very dependant on use, a FFP reticle suitable for hunting is I find a different beast from something to use on gongs or paper.

Originally Posted by nzspearo

March F 3-24, can be had with 40 or 50mm objective, and nice clean FML reticle.


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What he said.

The FML reticle is perfect for hunting.
Dial for distance, hold for windage.

Mostly hunting but some gong shooting. Reticle needs to be hunting friendly. MOA preferred over mils, my brain is hard wired to think in moa.

I run a element helix 4-16 ffp mil on my 22LR.
Come in both mil and moa, clean and dirty recticle

Arken optics EPL4 in mil or moa. Light with mhr hunting reticle.

Originally Posted by chainsaw

Mostly hunting but some gong shooting. Reticle needs to be hunting friendly. MOA preferred over mils, my brain is hard wired to think in moa.

Moa can be a fuzzy confusion of lines, sightron do a reticle in 2 moa steps that's much easier to use. Actually 2 moa is as close as damn it to half mil so with that in mind a mil reticle is easier to understand

Originally Posted by 55six

Arken optics EPL4 in mil or moa. Light with mhr hunting reticle.

Never heard of them, are they available in NZ? Any reviews?

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Moa can be a fuzzy confusion of lines, sightron do a reticle in 2 moa steps that's much easier to use. Actually 2 moa is as close as damn it to half mil so with that in mind a mil reticle is easier to understand

2 moa hash marks a waste of etching on a reticle
.2 mil in the main reticle with a .1mil measuring of to the side

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Yes they are from Night Vision NZ (in daylight optics menu). I have a 4-16 in MIL, I like it.

Originally Posted by chainsaw

Never heard of them, are they available in NZ? Any reviews?

Yes. Im running a EPL4 4-16x44 in MIL (MRAD) FFP on my 6creedmoor.
I really like the reticle and the turrets. Illuminated in the very center of the cross. Very tactile Elevation turret with solid zero stop. Capped windage turret which is finger adjustable to zero.
Glass appears good to me (i mainly use my VX-6hd to compare).
The only gripe is the parallax knob - it seems to be always around the 200-300 markings to correct the parallax error at nearly any range I ignore the markings but it just seems to be sensitive in a tight range of motion.

Not really my preferred style of scope for hunting but its a great general not in the bush scope.

Do you have a price and/or weight limit?

There are quite a few good FFP scopes out there but they tend to be aimed more at target shooters and get a little heavy.