Well for what it's worth out of a 4" barrel using 4.2gr titegroup I get 1115fps out of my Austrian hand piece on the range.
Surely one could do ++P loads.
I've used the 9mm inserts in a 20Ga single shot and they work emphatically on possums at 70y..
A ++P load out of a carbine length would make deer shudder at sub 100y surely.
Push a 90gr XTP at +1600 fps and you're entering some very interesting territory indeed
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