Thread: First rifle for older person? Meat hunting. Only be allowed one.

Hi, what would be the ideas/options of -

1; $1-$3 K;-

or 2; under $1k.

Purpose = goats/pigs say 30-80 m. Occasionally longer range on target-say to 180m useful (geese/goats). Own cows at about 20m.

Place= bush with lots supplejack, wet, steep clay-some open country.

Thought needs to be shorter than 1 m overall length, lighter than 5 kg if possible.

5+ shot semi auto = good.
(I can carry two goats at once- so mob shooting is good)

Needs to be quiet to suit with dog and me- and the complaining neighbours or their visitors.
Within 400 m at certain points- also valley reverberation.

Nothing too protruding to get knocked off.

Able to be used as a walking staff- unloaded and muzzle end covered of course.

Affordable to run- like bullet cost-muzzle life.

Consistently accurate-(currently easily can do my 3 shots at 100m with air-rifle in a $2 coin space)- so needs to be better than me.

Quiet to chamber- amazing what you can hear in the bush.

Will handle being dropped in the river occasionally and definitely getting wet - rain is continuous sometimes.

Some sort of scope on it- for those distances and in low light, or at night with small spotlight.
Pigs do come out between 1am and daybreak-so easy to get them then too.

Lowish recoil- even if I was still 18- am interested in making it easier for me.

Left Handed = good, as am used to that.

Don't need for rabbits or possums-.22 air-rifle good enough.

Needs to be centrefire- so can get DOC permit if necessary.

Last more than 4-5 years-scope might not-getting wet-but rifle should with reasonable maintenance.
If time-maybe 600 rounds a year.

Early next year is the plan- sat Mountain safety course short while ago(passed)-so apply for FAL when certain domestic situation resolved/ and own place.

What useful ideas? thanks.

Your air rifle is more accurate than most 22lrs !
Just use that and shoot everything in the eye


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Reliable with specs like that I go with a cross bow!

A Sterling SMG fits the bill

You get some awesome advice on here Reliable, don't worry someone with the knowledge will come thru for you shortly!

I was trying to think of a good s/s semi then I realised I didn't know of any good or otherwise.

Thanks Guys.

Yes thought about that-managed a goat kill will head shot- only trouble is you have to be close, and they have to keep their head still, while I muck around-insert the magazine, chamber the pellet, find something to lean against,think is this OK - like do I really want to shoot this one, where will the projectile go if I miss,flick the safety, etc etc.And get this heavy 1 m long thing in place.
Thought further away = more time between them spotting me/them-and more sure of the kill.

Crossbow was a good idea too- apart from will be hanging in the first or second bit of supple-jack I climb thru.

Tried a native spear, can only throw it about 10m, and am useless at it-made good walking staff though.

Am I asking too much? Where should I compromise? if so.

And I thought here comes some clever logic,

SKS semi auto in 7.62 X 39 will tick 90% of your 'wants and needs'.........IMHO.....

If you can bear to lower your standards to a bolt action the world is your oyster.

Originally Posted by Reliable

Thanks Guys.

Yes thought about that-managed a goat kill will head shot- only trouble is you have to be close, and they have to keep their head still, while I muck around-insert the magazine, chamber the pellet, find something to lean against,think is this OK - like do I really want to shoot this one, where will the projectile go if I miss,flick the safety, etc etc.And get this heavy 1 m long thing in place.
Thought further away = more time between them spotting me/them-and more sure of the kill.

Crossbow was a good idea too- apart from will be hanging in the first or second bit of supple-jack I climb thru.

Tried a native spear, can only throw it about 10m, and am useless at it-made good walking staff though.

Am I asking too much? Where should I compromise? if so.

I like you ability to analyse a conundrum

Originally Posted by Scouser

SKS semi auto in 7.62 X 39 will tick 90% of your 'wants and needs'.........IMHO.....

Do they regularly shoot better than half moa?

howa suppressed package in 223 or 243

Originally Posted by scoped

howa suppressed package in 223 or 243

With the 10 shot mag kit for mobs of goats.

Yes I agree