you are right Cigar - shooting mobs of goats in fact I used to shoot single shot-after emptying mag - load one fire load one fire and that worked on mobs - floor plate nice to carry - dont rattle and cant lose - mag only of benefit if big say 7-8 shot - and two of them - pig to carry and to use though especially lying down - but realistically how often is it needed - how many of us shoot up mobs of goats really -
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