Thread: future of 7.62x39?

Had a conversation with a guy who believes the days of cheap 7.62x39 is coming to an end. Russian stuff not imported anymore, and with no more semi autos the demand for cheap stuff is slow enough to discourage importers. He thinks the quality hunting rounds will always be available, but at the quality cost. Does anyone know anything about this? I had been thinking about another 7.62x39 but maybe a .223 might be better... Thoughts?

IMO it is a dead cartridge in this country

Originally Posted by Beavis

IMO it is a dead cartridge in this country

Wow, that’s a bold call!

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

Wow, that’s a bold call!

The appeal of the cartridge was buying large amounts of steel case ammo and smashing it through combloc semi auto rifles. If you were going to bother handloading, why wouldn't you go Grendel and shoot the same weight projectiles with a much higher BC?

Originally Posted by Beavis

The appeal of the cartridge was buying large amounts of steel case ammo and smashing it through combloc semi auto rifles. If you were going to bother handloading, why wouldn't you go Grendel and shoot the same weight projectiles with a much higher BC?

The rifles are modest in cost (cheap?) and if you have been left with a bunch of x39 ammo why not pull the projectiles and replace them with soft points, modest cost (cheap?) ammo.
Good for most bush hunting.
My 2 cents worth

There will be enough surplus still in circulation to last years...

Ive owned one and loved it......I also own a 223 and love that. they are similar but diferent.
both are arguably a 150 yard deer cartridge...but IF it was a big stag the x39 would give me more assurance with a 150grn load. for close range bush work the x39 was AWESOME. short light,easy to carry with enough power to bowl over deer,it worked great on wallabies and Im positive it would do so on goats. the norinco bolt was a little agricultural but if treated right and not babied it never EVER gave issues
the .223 is more precise,far more accurate so neat for sniping rabbits n hares
Ive shot a few deer with it now and fairly confident BUT thats a stationary non stressed animal and precise shot placement with good loads
varmit type loads are a little safer and being 50 grn Vs 132grn SHOULD stop a bit quicker
the SST hornady bulk pack ammo in x39 is great...the 55grn hornady bulk pack ammo in .223 is great...BOTH will continue to be made and I cant see it not being imported.

the x39 is so simple to reload its not funny.....you COULD fill case to base of neck with 2206 and call it good...there isnt enough case capacity to get into trouble,trailboss loads are a heck of alot of fun to use and have thier place on game.

I onsold my x39 to a good home as the .308 I sort of inherited did what it used to do and had longer legs.....one day I wouldve seen a deer from my lookout spot and the 250-300 yards wouldve just been too far for the wee gun....

the x39 never let me down....
for goats either would be great,the .223 might argueably be better out further BUT if you shooting multiple targets in a hurry,the extra ooomph of the x39mm could be more humaine as a little more room for error.

I'd say its here to stay, its a pretty useful round for pest control (goats etc), and Belmont etc are likely to pick up the slack (same as they do 223).

The more likely round to fade out is 300 BLK IMO . . . .

Originally Posted by Tentman

I'd say its here to stay, its a pretty useful round for pest control (goats etc), and Belmont etc are likely to pick up the slack (same as they do 223).

The more likely round to fade out is 300 BLK IMO . . . .

dont be like that mate, iv finally got one after saying i didnt need one for years

Find a load that suits your needs and invest in as much of it as you can afford - ammo (of any sort) will never be cheaper than it currently is.

I suspect 6.5 Grendel is going to continue growing in popularity and eat into whatever share x39 has left. Far better ballistics in an identically sized package, and many many more options for the reloader.

I have been shooting a bolt action 7.62x39 for about six years now and have moved to only shooting hand loads. They are more accurate save you a bit of coin. I have also worked up loads for several other people's rifles, always with success with finding really accurate loads. Hornady SST 123gr or Speer Gold Dot with Hodgdon CFE BLK powder have given outstanding results on paper and animals. Lately been playing with Belmont Action Rifle powder and finding that is a winner too.

I certainly don't see 7.62x39 going away anytime soon even if the cheap surplus ammo does. Given the way ammo prices are constantly rising if you're not a hand loader you should become one.

Originally Posted by hthomas

I have been shooting a bolt action 7.62x39 for about six years now and have moved to only shooting hand loads. They are more accurate save you a bit of coin. I have also worked up loads for several other people's rifles, always with success with finding really accurate loads. Hornady SST 123gr or Speer Gold Dot with Hodgdon CFE BLK powder have given outstanding results on paper and animals. Lately been playing with Belmont Action Rifle powder and finding that is a winner too.

I certainly don't see 7.62x39 going away anytime soon even if the cheap surplus ammo does. Given the way ammo prices are constantly rising if you're not a hand loader you should become one.

@hthomas interested in the velocities you get with CFE BLK and Belmont Action Rifle. Most other powders I have tried can only achieve lower velocities than factory loads.

x39 will be around for ages. If you can make a sub load for x39 of decent weight shoot, then I don't see any advantage in 300AAC (although the cases can be made out of .223). 300AAC cycled a semi auto AR15 with sub loads, that was where it was king IMHO.

hthomas: could you give some details about your progress with with Belmont Action Rifle powder and 7.62x39 please?

lil gun........