Say what? What did the “apprentice” do wrong?
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Say what? What did the “apprentice” do wrong?
Don't give it oxygen ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
It has no oxygen. GC has explained what happened. A mistake was made across the counter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shamus_
exactly Shamus enough - the key points I took were 1) GC came on and said our ballsup and put it right good stuff ( hell how many transactions now a days one cant even get hold of the seller or are left sitting on the end of a phone trying to get some action ) no well done GC 2) he said the young fella will be gutted when he learns of the mistake - that implies that he cares about his job and role well done - we all are capable of mistakes -shooting goats one day could not understand why a round would not chamber duhhh .223 into a .222 - mate I was zeroing with must have dropped it into my icecream container of ammo
Did the ammo come from gc, maybe you could blame them :P
no all supplied from one major retailer in bulk no my mate must have dropped it in -we were both at a shooting mound together and I dont have a .223 he did
Ive even heard of the odd miss matched round i a factory packet of ammo
So after following this thread and seeing some interesting opinions I thought Id throw it out there. So who is ultimatley resposible for checking your gear? You they guy at the gun shop, someone else? And do check your purchases when tou get home or just take someone elses word for it that everythings all good? Me I check my own gear even if its brand new.
Implying "said seller" makes more mistakes than other "sellers" is creative writing which suits your cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
They may well make more mistakes than the average Gunshop. But I would suggests that their mistakes as a percentage of transactions is likely as low as other retailers.
I don't have stats to prove it, but yet to see stats which disprove it also.
All this "perfectionist" talk of threads has been a eye opener for me. I could have quite likely had the same result as the OP and the apprentice.
There is silly then there is sillier still trying to make yourself feel superior by pointing it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
Just for the record, outline your theory on how a suppressor "flying off" is dangerous? I've seen at least 3 go flying and never a problem . . .
A baffle strike due to misalignment is more dangerous, but your point is still good.
I think what needs to be noted here is that most rifles and a lot of suppressors don't list the muzzle thread specs on them, it's a fairly easy mistake to make when you have a lot of options in the pile in front of you. It could have been as simple as a customer placing the wrong can in the right box or pile, and the opposite problem occurring later 'this can doesn't fit...'.
While the seller is required to make good, they are most definitely not required to front up on an unrelated forum and own up to their mistake. I actually find that quite refreshing and rare in this day and age. If only car dealers could learn from this! Those bastards are quick to blame every other cog in the machine thats for sure...
More of a danger possibly is having multiple suppressors in different calibers all sharing same thread size. Somewhere along the line bad shit is going to happen if you don’t check suppressor is correct one for a particular firearm. In this case the vendor at least got caliber right. As said before some threads are a close match for others and mistakes can be made. Owner’s responsibility to check everything before use.
I have one suppressor that fits all my 14x1 rifles. Its a 30 cal suppressor. The biggest rifle I have that will take a suppressor is 6.5mm so no chance of fuk ups there, and a doubt there would be much of a sound difference noticable unless your using some good quality sound measuring gear which hunters and deer or goats dont carry around with them.
Frankly the title is misleading and the discussion seems to have multiple threads all going.
Talk about confusing.
Hope it doesn't match the 100 odd pages (any other old buggers remember exact total?) that the old 2002-2005 FishnHunt forum had whinging about the blue stores.
Its like attending a neurodiversity conference :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
That old thread was a shocker.
That is a good question, but I think it is hard to give it a simple answer, Mrs longshot has a FAL, but as good of a woman as she is, I don’t think she would be able to confirm with confidence that a suppressor thread was the correct thread or necessarily notice if it was wrong. That’s my gut feeling on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
I have had a minor issue myself where I could feel a new suppressor gauling as I started screwing it on, the threads on the rifle in question needed further attention, I might have been able to argue it wasn’t my fault, but fault was neither here nor there, I was focused on making it work for hunting deer rather than witches. I mention it because it demonstrates that even though I thought I knew my stuff, I got caught out by a blind spot.
For a different but comparable perspective, I think we would all agree that if a mechanic fitted an incorrect oil filter and it fell off because it had the wrong thread, the owner of car doesn’t or shouldn’t have to own or wear that mistake.
But if I went into Repco and asked for a filter for a 1990 Corolla, and they sold me the wrong one resulting in a seized motor, I would imagine it would be hard work for me to put liability on Repco.
Probably the best answer we can get is that you would hope the shop gets it right, but even without motive, when abundant opportunity meets human hands, error is only a matter of time.
That old thread on the old forum was my favourite
I got a rifle n suppressor awhile back...but wrong suppressor so didn't fit...easy mistake as chap had two identical cans with different threads. I've got two identical cans with same thread but different calibre.very very careful if I take bigger cartridge to get can with bigger hole in end lol. Typing that,I may just do a colour code wrap of insulation tape on one rifle n can to remove possibility of cock up.
It can happen, luckily when I did it, the thread mismatch was enough to realise immediately and it was a bigger caliber suppressor on a smaller caliber rifle. But the upshot was I wasn't using that rifle on that trip. To avoid that inconvenience alone, everything is now marked for numbering by colors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
My DPT has the thread marked on it. My Gunworks does not and I just had to look up the receipt to remind me what thread it has and have now added that into my spreadsheet along with lots of other important data.
Gunworks have my thread size on file beside my rifle ID number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
If you go into a shop and buy a suppressed rifle as a package - which the OP did, it is the shop's duty to get it right.
The end.
Yes, when purchasing a rifle package one would expect everything to be fitted correctly. In this case a staff member made a mistake. The manager of outlet took ownership of the problem and rectified it. He also stated the employee would be mortified by his mistake. Mistakes can and do happen. We’ve all made them. If you haven’t either you haven’t done much in life or you’ve probably got selective memory. The trick is to own your mistakes and learn from them.
I'm guessing they do for mine too since they did the work, but it would still help if it was stamped on the suppressor somewhere, especially if you have more than one of theirs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
50% of my guns are from GC, the rest 50% are from various vendors around the country including mail orders. GC purchases are fine so far.
I luckily have an engraving Pantagraph and will start engraving the muzzle thread specs on the barrel near the muzzle.
A few of my Contender barrels share suppressors so this would make things a bit clearer in the future.
As far as Repco, nup they gotta wear that so probably not the best analogy. However if you did the work yourself and fitted the filter and didnt check it was right - well you pays your money but in the end your safety is your problem check your own crap and don't rely on someone else wiping your crack for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by longshot
whats to stop those with multiple suppressors putting a simple ID(even a bit of nail polish) on specific rifle suppressor combos. Ive never had any probs with mine.
Not sure how you even come to the conclusion about the quality of their firearms. Do their tikkas, sakos remingtons etc come from different factorys than where other retailers get theres from?
That's even better idea than colour coded insulation tape.thankyou ol bean.Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku
Be worth checking the actual threads match. Would be supposed how well a m15x supressor will shoulder up on a m14x1 thread if your a gronk at GCQuote:
Originally Posted by Nga
This reminds me of the tale of the proud owner of a new 308. Him and a mate were having a coffee before heading to the range. His wife walked passed and asked what the tube thing was ( suppressor ) says owner, but the bullet won't fit out of that she says !
The helpful salesman had sold him a 243 suppressor.
It will be fine after the first one has gone through