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Was just looking at the Gun City webb page and they have a set of ATN XR5 milspec Night vision goggles for $2999.00. Considering they were selling these for $19`999 last time I looked and usually $21`999 either they have stuffed up the price or someone is in for the deal of a lifetime.
Hell if I was looking for a set I`d grab it , Or at least enjoy them trying to explain their way out of not selling at a advertiesd sale price item.:thumbsup:
or possibly they are just making 100% profit instead of their usual 5,000% :wtfsmilie:
XR5 is mad expensive, costs more than gen3
Or maybe its really from Aliexpress.com?
Whos gonna lend me 3 grand?
gotta love their pricing - somehow I think its a stuff up
Love that they price the FLIR BTS XR with 35mm lens for $19,999 - We sell ours for $12,999
Yep last XR5 I imported for a guy up north was $14`500 inc gst from memory. About $13`000 now with the Dollar. Hell of expensive though it was a very nice tube when it arrived. Some of the Gen2+ SHP tubes are XR5 but with say a tiny flyspot so sold as Gen2+ for around $6000. My son has one thats about perfect but for 1 tiny flyspot.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
Night Vision Goggles NVG7-XR5 *Milspec* Special Order
this the one you were talking about tasbay? seems like a good bit of kit for the price, surely some catch
Had a play with the latest PULSAR N750 Digisight rifle scope at the fieldays. very cool gear. 600m at night. $3000. works in daylight to. I was told better than gen3 because it is digital. but i'm new to night vision so don't understand that as yet.
yes, I seen them too, digital seems like the way to go unless you have thermal dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
are his prices the best around?
anyone own any of them?
Digital is Real Shit, please don't listen to salesmen
its a guncity deal after the way they stuffed chris around it has to be a con job i would deal with faregame he would'nt bs you
really?
it looked ok during the day, I asked if its the same during the night. he said yes but a bit more grainy.
I don't believe everything a sales person says, you are the first non-bias opinion.
have you got any more to add?
You tube has a lot of videos on them
Pulsar 750 vs Skippy
PULSAR N750 DIGISIGHT KANGAROO - YouTube
Vs some NV Tech versions
ATN Night Arrow - Gen2
ATN Night Arrow 4x Gen 2 Night Vision Scope - YouTube
ATN Mars - Gen3
ATN MARS4-3 Night Vision Riflescope NVWSMRS430 Generation 3. - YouTube
As far as I've seen, heard, and read, digital compares with gen 1, which is basically worthlessQuote:
Originally Posted by bully
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Originally Posted by faregame
My net here is too slow to watch these but I watched a bit of the first one and it should be noted that its with IR illumination
hi,i have a pulsar550 on a savage308 and love it.use it only on private land!!.i can spot deer size game to 500m.it is very hard to judge distance at night through scope so only fire if within 100m or so.i brought from gun city who i find great to deal with.
Nick
So people do find guncity service good, nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by nick
Yep think soQuote:
Originally Posted by gimp
Only put those up to show what Digital looks like vs NV tech - plenty of videos out there to show what can been seen
I don't sell Digital stuff - only Thermal FLIR/ATN and ATN NV - nor I am I saying something better or not - don't need suppliers giving opinions here
Yeh that was the one.Out of interest sake I would ask if I was you. I can do the PVS-7B Goggles for around $14`000 with the XR5 tube and GC were doing the ATN XR5 verson for $20`000 so think they forgot a Zero in the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
The XR5 is very nice but as mentioned by Gimp very expensive. I have started importing the Gen3 Katod tubes and hell are they nice. They well outshine the XR5 and my 2 personal U.S Gen 3 units, $6400 at the moment and sold 6 in the last month.
Had 2 guys turn up here 2 weeks ago and tried some of what I have, compared to U.S gen3. They then tried the other stuff mentioned here and ordered 2 sets $13`000 worth off me, for rabbit shooting.
Can you post some photos through the Gen3 Katod tubes? And comparison photos to other gear? Would be good to see.... might make me get out my wallet
Also what housings are they available in etc?
Hi Gimp,Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I can`t take good photos through a goggle and I have tried!!. I was always a bit lairy about the Katod tubes but GSCI have done some extensive testing and they are in their opinion and mine up to scratch now days ( I don`t import crap!!). My Personal PVS-7 has a min64lp/mm thin filmed non autogated tube and is milspec FOM not known as no paperwork . The Gen3 Katod tubes rated FOM min 1260 are the ones Im importing but can get higher as have approval so 2 week delivery. Anyway the Katod tubes make my set look a bit sick!!
Here are the Data sheet stats of a unit Im sending to a buyer today Its rated FOM min 1260 :; 61lp/mm S/N 24 photocathode sensitivity 1750 FOM 1464 , Gain 60`000x I think you know what that lot means.
The housings are Israli made for their defence force and exact to the U.S ones PVS-7 & MUM-14.
D-740 & D-760 Russian as they all are though you wouldn`t think it reading the U.S sites. Have a D-760 comming through customs for a guy today. Gen3 tubes FOM 1260-1800.
Cheers Darrin
maybe you should try harder with the pics tasbay ,as I would also like to see a comparison with the different tubes,
I would just take his word for it. Used Israeli NV kit in the Army. It was miles ahead of everything else of the same rating.Quote:
Originally Posted by mumabear
If it was not for politics I am sure our soldiers would be issued it.
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so the Gen3 Katod tube is Israeli made ?
Katod tubes are the only Russian "Gen3"
Generation really refers to the design of the tube not necessarily the performance, although each generation has different performance limits
Gen 1 = shit, unusable without lots of ambient light or IR illumination
Gen 2 = runs from pretty crap to pretty good (and hilarious $ for the pretty good, see DEP/Photonis XR5 prices)
Gen 3 = pretty good to ~*amazing*~
Poor gen 3 can be worse than the best gen 2
I would be interested in a demo sometimeQuote:
Originally Posted by Tasbay
MUM + camera adapter for the pics?
I thought the Russian tubes were time bombs?
I had heard that they were very variable in quality and failed sooner than US tubes, with a lower performance ceiling, but that they've been improving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Key difference: We can actually get the Russian ones and they aren't $10,000+ like DEP gen2+
so the Gen3 Katod tube is Russian made
I emailed a guy a few days ago saying the same thing (a demo please) he said just buy it and you can return it if you don't like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
yeah right buddy!
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Originally Posted by mumabear
http://katod.org/
yes
thanks for clearing that up
didn't tasbay say somewhere along the line he wouldn't import Russian nv cause it was crap,
they sure must of upped there game some,
Gimp :Yep that pretty well sums it up. I was at GSCI in Canada 2 1/2 years ago looking over units and discussing just what I could get exported out of Canada along with what were the chances of U.S Gen3 tubes... Not a shit show.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
Then the conversation turned to Russian Katod tubes to that I was told they have a way to go and are not as good as Gen2 but they will get there. Well they have got their crap together and after testing GSCI now stock them. GSCI are suppliers to Military and Law enforcment and don`t want to cop a bad reputation for dealing dodgey Units.
Anyway I have bought in 6 or 7 Katod Gen3 PVS-7 units in the last couple of months and all have way outshone the XR5 tube PVS-7 I have here. $6400 for the Gen3 compared to $14,500 for the XR5. 2 have made my U.S PVS-7 units look pretty silly.
Well the guys who know me or have delt with me know I don`t supply crap.
I just sent 1 to a guy in Auckland today, Has never tried any NV in his life, was unsure (hell I would be) Hes paid for it and if he dosn`t like it he will get his money back........ Im pretty confident never had 1 sent back yet... 60+ sets so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by bully
Yes I think I said something like that, If you want Gen1 , Gen2 or Gen2+ Russian or Eastern block Digital don`t ask me. Get it from someone else I don`t want the warranty issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by mumabear
Took alot to persuade me on the Katod Gen3.
have you looked though the one that can clip on front of your day optic ? any good
The CNVD-22. No not yet . Was asking about them a couple of weeks ago. I have applied for and Got End Use Certification for 5 CNVD-22 units I think they will be quite popular. They are still in manufacture and not due for release unitll early July.Quote:
Originally Posted by mumabear
Im seriously thinking of bringing one in to see what its like.
Gimp: A demo would be my pleasure. Im in Timaru 1st week of the school holidays to see some Cockys who have bought a couple of sets from me and want me to demo for a group of their farming mates... and I think his insurance agent.... Don`t ask!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
The MUM-14 I can do but last time I asked about a camera adapter for 1 I was told.... How long you prepared to wait!!! Lets just say no camera adapter for the MUM. The new PBS-14 though!!.