Thread: Gun too short.

Dude, you need to start reading what you're posting yourself.

"The length of ANY (THAT MEANS ALL) firearm is measured without any “attachments” (whether or not
“permanently” attached (e.g. welding, pinned)), such as flash-hiders, silencers,
muzzle brakes, or barrel extensions. - It then goes on to talk about barrel length."

Mcilraiths correspondence was done via EMAIL to the members of FCAF, nothing more.

Which he corrected the above saying ANY firearm is measured without any "attachments" with an exception for MSSA's ONLY.

"To determine overall length of the MSSA (That means ONLY MSSA's) the measuring should start from the closed or folded stock position to the end of the flash suppressor, providing the flash suppressor is firmly fixed to the firearm in such a way that a tool is required to remove it."

Therefore, I am agreeing, if you have an MSSA and it has a flash hider that makes up the rest of your 30" and you think you can prove that it is just that in court, you might do OK and you might not.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Dude, you need to start reading what you're posting yourself.

"The length of ANY (THAT MEANS ALL) firearm is measured without any “attachments” (whether or not
“permanently” attached (e.g. welding, pinned)), such as flash-hiders, silencers,
muzzle brakes, or barrel extensions. - It then goes on to talk about barrel length."

Mcilraiths correspondence was done via EMAIL to the members of FCAF, nothing more.

Which he corrected the above saying ANY firearm is measured without any "attachments" with an exception for MSSA's ONLY.

"To determine overall length of the MSSA (That means ONLY MSSA's) the measuring should start from the closed or folded stock position to the end of the flash suppressor, providing the flash suppressor is firmly fixed to the firearm in such a way that a tool is required to remove it."

Therefore, I am agreeing, if you have an MSSA and it has a flash hider that makes up the rest of your 30" and you think you can prove that it is just that in court, you might do OK and you might not.

Chill brother, I know what I wrote

"The length of ANY (THAT MEANS ALL) firearm is measured without any “attachments” (whether or not
“permanently” attached (e.g. welding, pinned)), such as flash-hiders, silencers,
muzzle brakes, or barrel extensions. - It then goes on to talk about barrel length."

Is from that original link about Measuring length of an MSSA firearm you posted, this says nothing about MSSA's being measured differently. Your link specifically mentions Flash hiders which would indicate to me they meant an MSSA in your link as well.

I later found Supt McIlraith later clarified later in the year regarding MSSA's:

"should start from the closed or folded stock position to the end of the flash suppressor, providing the flash suppressor is firmly fixed to the firearm in such a way that a tool is required to remove it. "
If the Police have released this as an internal and external clarification (which is what Pistol NZ says they have done) I would think you can reasonably take that as their position on the matter. I was asking if there was any Pistol NZ people or Kiwigunblog writers here as I wanted to see the original email/letter.

Anyways you said it yourself said we agree about MSSA's