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I can't help but notice how fussy gun owner/enthusiast is
I'm in the CNC metal industry and deal with precision engineering on a daily basis (and fussy customers)
but it seems to me that gun owner/enthusiasts fussiness is at the next level, haha...
I guess, gun is a hobby, so people have time to be fussy.
Do you think gun enthusiast is fussier than other or do they really need to be "just like that".
Just in general, not pointing to any particular person or member. :)
Do you exude a aura of needing to be told how to do something you are an expert in the field of or at you just young and talented an your reputation hasn’t caught up with how good you think your work is?
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And with hobbies, the "heart rules the head" much of the time. The funniest people are those who are unaware of their condition . . . .
There is nothing wrong with striving for excellence! And if those people that show more tendencies to strive for excellence happen to be fellow gun owners then Im all for it. But Im not a fan of the attitude so prevalent in many Kiwi's of knocking those who do strive to be the best they possibly can, or want the best of workmanship, etc etc. Would have been nice to see your post say something along the lines of "Hi guys, I work in this really cool industry where we machine stuff to really tight tolerances, and some of our best customers are fellow gun owners that appreciate our attention to detail, thank you"
The internet has 'educated' a lot of experts and that would answer most of your question I think
I like fussy clients especially when they are satisfied all the more satisfying. Nothing gurrs me more than clients who want it slapped up quick "No ones going to see it" "Na use that bit I don't want to buy another" know it all clients are a different breed all together .
A Labourer uses their hands,
A Tradesman uses their mind and their hands
A Craftsman uses their heart their mind and their hands
I know what my clients are getting and I'm always a step ahead of the fussy ones .
So to clarify are we talking fussy or know it all?
It is true that gun owners and enthusiasts can be quite meticulous when it comes to their firearms, and this can be seen as fussiness to some. However, there are a few reasons why this may be the case.
Firstly, firearms are precision instruments that require proper maintenance and care to function reliably and safely. Therefore, gun owners may place a high level of importance on keeping their firearms in excellent condition and may pay close attention to every detail of their gun's performance.
Secondly, firearms can be a significant investment, both in terms of monetary value and personal attachment. Therefore, gun owners may be more particular about the performance and appearance of their firearms.
Lastly, the culture surrounding firearms can also contribute to the fussiness of gun owners. Shooting and collecting firearms can be seen as a hobby or lifestyle, and like any hobby, enthusiasts may have particular preferences or standards that they adhere to.
That being said, not all gun owners are fussier than others, and it's important to remember that everyone has their own unique personality and interests. Some gun owners may be more particular than others, but this doesn't necessarily mean that they are fussier than individuals in other hobbies or industries.
For some sorts of shooting, high level of attention to detail is an advantage and the borderline OCD do enjoy target, benchrest long range springer and gunsmithing. Theres plenty of room fir rough as guts she’ll be right chuck it in the back of the quad blokes too but you dont see them at the gunsmith or forum.
BTW @MacyHunter your first few posts are marginal on the Turing test. They rehash common ideas without quite producing anything new and dont have a german thought style and syntax yet. ( not sure what the word for that is but there will be one). Are you using something to draft your posts ? Pop onto the introductions page and make yourself known. And welcome to the forum. ��
and the thing has a controlled explosion right next to your face...good reason to be fussyQuote:
Originally Posted by MacyHunter
^ what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I would have said a directed explosion, rather than controlled. Same sentiment.
I'm in the same trade as you Snap 4T. I find that enthusiasts are all like that regardless of the object of their passion. A cheap used rifle & a mint condition-Sako etc still kill an animal but I know what one I'd rather be using.
Firearms owners usually know the value of the work they're paying for but expect the quality to match, whereas most customers can't appreciate the cost involved in a "quick" 3 hour job when you've got a few $M in workshop equipment and materials.
I have learnt over the years when the customer wants me to produce a work of art and when they just want quick & dirty, Sometimes their cost expectations don't align with what they want/need though.
Triple constraint: you can have 2, but cannot have all 3:Quote:
Originally Posted by No good names left
Cheap
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Hunting and shooting isn’t a “hobby” for some of us, so we expect 110%. Would you be happy with Surgeon doing an 80% job?
I got an 80% surgeon back in the 70's.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmpireSafaris
You cant take them to the disputes tribunal, or the courts, unlike a gunsmith.
The ones that bug me are the ones that want to follow you into the workshop and watch you do the job.
I don't mind the ones that ask if they can watch as generally they keep out of the way and are respectful.
The ones that don't away seem to be in my way !!! as I move around from station to station.
(Making Hoses and minor Lath or Brazing work.)
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In the world of precision engineering firearms are actually not all that precise, a tolerance of .002-.003" being fairly normal. That is smaller than a gnat's cock to builder but positively sloppy to a toolmaker. Most post WW2 metal working machines in good condition can work all day within a .003" tolerance with a good operator, whereas a good CNC can work within .001" all by itself with good tooling and programming. The main 'need' for precision is from the pride of owning a well-built firearm and the appreciation and experience of its performance. The customer is not always right but he is the one with the money and won't come back for more jobs if he is not happy!
Yup we're either seeing proper AI bots moving in or someone who's relying on Chat GPT to formulate their posts. There's certainly nothing 'organic' about his/her responses and tends to reply to his own posts with generally unrelated content. The most recent one on the 7mm-08 thread has a totally unrelated link re a Bergara .22 ----->>>> Bot<<<<!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
Ok, despite all the fussiness and OCD
In all seriousness, I also couldn't help but notice that hunters (in general) are good people,
if I compare it to the others (fisho, kayakers, divers, and mountain bikers).
Ok, that's true, I haven't met that many hunters, but so far, hunters that I've met or dealt with are nicer folks.
Not saying there are no good people in other sports or no bad apple/s among the hunter,
Just my observation so far in general.
Ok, I'm off digging for the rest of the weekend
Stay safe whatever you doing this Easter weekend