Hello.
I want to build a rifle from a well known and common action that isnt going to break the bank. I currently have a browning xbolt but thats no good as it has no stock options. I have a few calibers in mind for the build but will make my decision based on what action length and bolt face i can find. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
What will you be hoping to end up with?
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Start with a bergara. probably don't have to do anything to it. The Remington that Remington should've been if it wasn't bollocksed by shit management for the last 25 years
enerally just buy a second hand one with the correct bolt and mag for what your intending to finish up with then rebarrel and restock. T3 actions are great for this and are much better with a better trigger then a crappy ole remQuote:
Originally Posted by JaredBrown
7 saum or 300 wsm. still deciding between. I load for a 7RM so i already have bullets for 7 saum, but a 300 wsm would also be fun. I want a LA so i can seat the bullets out far in an aics mag.
If you're not aware Tikka T3 / T3x share the same action length. So that will allow you to use short or long action with just swapping the bolt stop and magazine. Long action you can run it as is with short action cartridge's and just have longer bolt throw.
So all you need to do is decide on magnum or non magnum bolt face.
Bonus is the long actions chamberings tend to sell for a little less than the short actions.
Edit. : Oh i see you're after magnum bolt face. Be easier and cheaper to get a magnum rifle to start with so you dont have to open the bolt face
Now Tikka factory magazines is limited on its long action magazine length but that is usually enough for the short action cartidges to seat out far. Maybe someone with 7 saum can confrim.
If you want AICS magazines for Tikka you have to be careful as there is two lengths. Taken from https://targetdynamics.co.nz/product...s-long-action/
So depending what chassis / bottom metal you get you will need different magazines.
3.715″ 300 WM and 338 LM for our chassis systems and other DBM
3.715″ Outside Length: 3.625″ max cartridge overall length (COAL)
3.560″ 300WM for our chassis systems for Tikka long action rifles (270 Win, 30-06, 300 WM etc)
3.560″ Outside Length: 3.470″ max cartridge overall length (COAL)
I had a chinese copy atlasworxs AICS long action bottom metal and it used the full lenght AICS magazines. For it to work properly people say i would of had to notch the bottom of the feed ramp on the tikka action.
But no mention of this on the atlasworxs website but they list the normal 3.715" magazine length. I never got around to fitting it so cant confirm.
https://atlasworxs.com/shop/atlaswor...x-long-action/
be warned re-barreling is now frightfully expensive
Buy a Howa in the barrel and calibre you want and then add a stock. Look up reloaders supplies in Auckland.
I shoot left handed so im' cursed :x_x:
If I could just find a left hand R700 to build a 8.6 on...
Has anyone used a howa 1500. How is the action and trigger compared to a tikka?
Not mine but there is a 6.5 T3x PRC listed today on Trademe for 1200$ start 1500$ buy now
The Tikka has a nicer trigger and is a smoother bolt than the howa 1500 IMHO but I don't like the narrow port/acess for fingers in the T3/T3X acction (i like the older T595/695's etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by JaredBrown
Both better in all aspectsincluding build quality than Remmington 700 although it may be 'inconsistent' build quality rather than all bad.
Either of your choices will work on a Tikka T3, my 7prc was a Tikka 7-08 and had it reamed and bolt face opened up.
I would get a T3 in mag cal then all you need is a rebarrel.
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Howa triggers are generally better than Tikka.
Factory triggers in general can be a little variable, some brands have some that are great and then you find one that just sucks. Rem X-mark poo triggers are just garbage, the smooth shiny blade is the worst aspect of that design - anything slippery on your finger and you slide all over it which is simply awesome for consistent let off. The earlier Rem Walker-type triggers are able to be made to be surprisingly good for a hunting trigger, but for a custom type setup I'd see what you can find in aftermarket options.
It for me is now a 'path of least resistance' deal, have a good look at what donor actions or rifles you can find and then look to see if you can find all the accessory bits you would like to use locally and at the price you want to pay. After a few laps back and forwards, you'll settle on what you have to use to get the combinations you need for bits for the build.
Just buy a tikka in 300 wsm change stock and you’re done. Seems pointless to have the saum when you have a rem mag.
The Law of Diminishing Returns….
If money is no object, then fine, go for it. If cost is a constraint, then look very carefully at the dollar cost per 50 ft./sec velocity, per 0.5” of drop, per 25 ft./lb energy, and of course per 50gr overall weight saved, compared to what you’ve already got. If you are thinking of selling your Browning, what is it worth in today’s depressed market? Probably not a great deal.
Compared to an off the shelf factory rifle, the true cost of those variables can be eye wateringly expensive, to you, a cost that few others would be prepared to pay if you came to sell the rifle later (semi custom rifles built on a budget rarely return their build cost as 2nd hand value.)
Tikka make the .300 WSM - talk to Beretta NZ about stock / future shipments.
Howa make several magnums, now available in carbon stocks. (That’s what I’d do - $2k, job done).
Just my 2c worth - I can’t see sufficient incentive for what you’re thinking of to be fair.
@JaredBrown
This build is about as relevant as you’ll find here - @stagstalker ‘s 7 SAUM built on a Rem 700.
Take a good look at the build spec and then maybe message him and ask him how much it cost!
It’s a beautiful rifle and in many ways the perfect hill country rifle for our conditions. But perfection is expensive, and can be technically tricky to achieve.
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....mm-saum-82594/
I get the attraction of playing with new calibres & projects. It’s a lot of fun but as others have noted can be expensive. So before you start make sure you are clear about your objectives & results you want to achieve. Are you after a hunting rifle ? Or more for gong shooting? If hunting, are you mostly bush hunting? Or open tops ? Are you hunting multi day expeditions or day trips or overnight? What distances are you hoping to shoot ? If it’s a hunting rifle then you want light & portable but retain accuracy & muzzle velocities to get distances you need. Personally I’ve settled on 20 - 22 in barrels as do it all hunting rifles, maybe 18in in some cases but trade off in speed/range. If you are thinking 7mm and you reload then there’s a few calibres that get you close to 3000fps with 162 pills out of 22in bbl. Yes SAUM is one, 284 or 280ai will do same & I’d look closely at new 7PRC also.