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    Here we go folks


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    The politicians don’t need to fuck with the law- they simply need to ensure the police and courts enforce the laws we have in place already and see that meaningful sentences are handed out. If there’s not enough room in prisons then start removing body parts

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    Body of email sent

    Hello Mr Scott

    If the copy of your proposal on this site is accurate
    Alastair Scott’s proposed Arms Act amendment – FIREARM OWNERS UNITED NZ
    then I am dismayed at your proposal

    I don't think that you know how firearms work


    Every gun cut down for a re-crown job will now be classed as a pistol

    Every gun cut down to allow for the natural balance point of putting a suppressor on it (helps if your dog doesn't go deaf) will now be classed as a pistol

    How long is a cut-down gun? Your proposed amendment doesn't say
    Are you trying to get rid of firearms by classing them as pistols?

    This amendment would instantly outlaw around 40% of my rifles and I only have one gun that would be considered a cut-down at the moment - a shotgun which was issued to Forestry Service staff for dealing to possums in dense bush
    When I am done with this piece of rubbish I will put an angle grinder through it as I think that it is the only responsible thing to do with it

    I do things like this as a responsible firearms owner


    Your bright idea to outlaw a large section of the shooting community will lose votes

    If this piece of legislation goes through then I will not vote National in the next election


    Yours,
    signed
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    Yep I've sent something in very similar. EVERYONE MUST respond to this.

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    I've had said mp messaging me back.

    He is listening or so he appears to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter View Post
    I've had said mp messaging me back.

    He is listening or so he appears to be.
    Just the standard response (thank you, we will look into this) from one of his minions, or something of substance ?

    Wairarapa has a strong national base, lots of rural voters. I sincerely hope the voters let the party management in that region know exactly what they think of such a poorly thought out piece of drivel. I suspect they could do significantly better than the current MP...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    Just the standard response (thank you, we will look into this) from one of his minions, or something of substance ?

    Wairarapa has a strong national base, lots of rural voters. I sincerely hope the voters let the party management in that region know exactly what they think of such a poorly thought out piece of drivel. I suspect they could do significantly better than the current MP...
    Nope surprisingly not.

    Actively engaged in conversation.

    I let him know he was about to single handedly alienate 200,000+ law abiding firearms owners from ever voting National again.

    Excuse the politics admin.

    Funny how Politicians react when their jobs potentially on the line
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    What immense stupidity that load of codswollop amendment is.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    What immense stupidity that load of codswollop amendment is.
    Yeah I mean it would mean that anything you do which makes your firearm shorter will make you an instant criminal. So fit a thiner recoil pad ................ criminal.

    Cynical part o me says thats exactly what they meant to do, its easy to find criminals when you have all their current addresses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    What immense stupidity that load of codswollop amendment is.
    Yes Rushy, that one certainly looks like it was thought out well doesn't it. If this is the result of an MP and Police getting their heads together, ... if their collective brains were made of gunpowder I don't think there would be enough there to ruffle a moustache let alone blow a single hat off!
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    I know what I'm gonna say may be frowned upon and as much as I encourage us all to be polite in response to this (as I will be....)

    ....

    But seriously, they can kiss my hairy ass.

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    Reply 4 minutes ago

    Hi


    Thanks for your comments on the draft document. Feedback has been good and the wording will be changed to be more specific, referencing 762mm

    Regards

    Alastair


    Feedback good?
    WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    Reply 4 minutes ago

    Hi


    Thanks for your comments on the draft document. Feedback has been good and the wording will be changed to be more specific, referencing 762mm

    Regards

    Alastair


    Feedback good?
    WTF?
    He's certainly a career politician. Doubling down on his own stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    Reply 4 minutes ago

    Hi


    Thanks for your comments on the draft document. Feedback has been good and the wording will be changed to be more specific, referencing 762mm

    Regards

    Alastair


    Feedback good?
    WTF?
    I think he means he has had a good amount of feedback.

    I think he actually had the best of intentions with the bill, but didn't realise the impact of leaving out a few key words.

    I think this whole debacle along with the on going AR15 one is actually good they have happened together.
    It's shown both the Police and MPs the firearms owners are very proactive in looking after the rights they have and are willing to stand up for them.
    But at the same time the majority of owners are also very keen to see harsher penalties for the criminals whole do break the law.

    I just hope that all of or at least most of the submissions have be well thought out and written intelligently, not just saying " if use tri 2 tak my gunz il fkn stab u pig shit cahnt".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetroot View Post
    I think he means he has had a good amount of feedback.

    I think he actually had the best of intentions with the bill, but didn't realise the impact of leaving out a few key words.


    I think this whole debacle along with the on going AR15 one is actually good they have happened together.
    It's shown both the Police and MPs the firearms owners are very proactive in looking after the rights they have and are willing to stand up for them.
    But at the same time the majority of owners are also very keen to see harsher penalties for the criminals whole do break the law.

    I just hope that all of or at least most of the submissions have be well thought out and written intelligently, not just saying " if use tri 2 tak my gunz il fkn stab u pig shit cahnt".
    So an honest mistake like Trumps last *&^% up?

 

 

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