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Hey is anyone using a Hi Tech Composites carbon fiber stock on their Howa 1500?
How do you like it? How much weight did you save?
Looking at shortening my 308 down to 16 inches with the DPT I already have and going carbon stock. The standard Howa stock is just over 1kg so should save a bit there alone, bedding shouldn't ad much weight?
Pretty sure he doesn't make the regular howa SA or LA 1500 action inlet. Just the mini? Could be wrong though?
@Rated M for Magnum & @Hunty1 he has recently completed Howa 1500 SA inletting in the Howa Mini stock.
520grams!
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I dont own a Howa 1500 but would consider getting due to that stock being availble for them. I wished he inletted that stock for Rem model 7s
Kens stock are the ducks nuts, i have two of the 700 stocks, his newer ones are even better.
I have a howa 308 shortened to 16 inches in a laminated stock with rings no scope or suppressor comes in at 2.7kg if that helps
Wow, that's light.
My answer to the OP would have been you can save about a half a kg with a C/F stock over a factory sporter stock. Approx.
I looked at t a few brands, options. It seems about a half a kg save is about right
Making a stock that comes in at only 520grams is lighter than any I researched.
you could do it with pauliwinna I havent been game to start on 2nd stock with piece left over.... its almost too light for good handling.
I stand corrected! Ken makes a awesome stock, have 2 of his stocks and they're great. That howa one is very light!
Yep not many fancy (expensive) CF stocks are that light. I have two that weight just less than that. Both Mod 7 stocks, one is a Stug and the other is a Wildcat Composites out of Canada. Kens new Howa mini (and now Howa 1500) stock is really nice, not only is the size and form how i like a hunting stock, but the weight is right down there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
Hey thanks for the feedback team, I'm keen as to get it done as the Howa is a proven shooter, it actually shoots better than my Tikka 7mm08, gasp! Even though it'll weigh about the same as a Tikka t3 standard I think it'll be a lot nicer rifle and with the shorter barrel be very "pointable"
520 grams is just over half what the standard hogue stock weighs, I've got a spare one that weighs 1024 grams on the kitchen scales @CBH Australia
Cool,Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
Where is Stuff when you need him? I think he found it hard to compete in the market on a small scale and make it viable.
Is Ken Hi Tech composites?
I looked Kiwi Composites previously, I think they were renamed
Yes Ken is Hi-Tec.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
Yeah i think Kiwi Composites was renamed Southfort Labs or similar.
Another NZ stock manufacturer was sold or relocated to Aussie, cant remember their name but their stocks werent anywhere near the quality of Hi-Tecs
Yep, saving about half a kilo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rated M for Magnum
Senator stocks might have have been bought out by an Aussie.
law change is what killed it for stug I think real bummer too as I always wanted one of his when he was selling them pre law but never had the money avalibleQuote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
Thats the bugger. A mate had one when they were NZ based, the fit and finish wasnt that great i thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
I have one of Ken's stocks on my Howa mini action, it's and awesome stock and makes it a sweet little rifle.
The finish is perfect and yes he can now inlet it for the Howa 1500 SA
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Not to take anything away from Ken but it looks like Howa got together with Stocks stocks to offer a C/F stocked rifle.
I see they now offer a C/Wrapped barrel on a new action too.
Do Hi-Tec have a retailer in Australia?
I think ken ship's direct to the customer but I'm not 100 on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
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Same,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
Didn't mean to call him Stuf
Yeah I think I looked into his stocks as few years back.
I'm over auto correct, ahh.
They did but the stock it’s self I wouldn’t mind betting is 650grams ish on the factory carbon howa not many go sub 600 and only a handful go sub 500 that iv seen its a real bonus as you can buy howa barreled actions put it in a KH stock and sit somewhere a little more than other factory rifles for a darn good rifle nice solid actions real bottom metal great triggers I had a creedmoor and man it shot wellQuote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
Interested to see how these carbon stocks (the NZ High Tech and the Howa factory offering) compare to the Banser (confusingly, also called Hi Tech at one time!) which came on the Howa Alpine.
Have the Howa Alpine and it's mint.
The Howa Alpine is mint, however I found it to be very short L.O.P hopefully the hitech ones are a little bit longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by caberslash
Just got a senator stock custom made, tikka inleted for sako 75 WSM in nz, very happy, much nicer to shoot and carry
You prefer the tikka design over the sako 75?
That’s like preferring reineck over Heineken
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Does not matter what ot says on the side, what matters is under the hood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
I drink Singha or Tsingtao :thumbsup:
https://www.senatorstocks.com/about-usQuote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
with arms like average bull gorrilla its no wonder some folks find L O P a tad short!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
2 weeks bud,2 more weeks.
It's a smaller than average stock. It's very nice but is based around a smaller stock for the mini. Howard have just released a 4lb 7oz rifles though that's supposed to be dort cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBH Australia
Just purchased one of these Stocks sight unseen, so I hope it’s good .
Ken confirmed via email that it’s basically their Howa Mini stock with different inletting obviously.
I don’t mind the overall size being a bit smaller as long as it’s not designed for midgets.
Has anyone else got one of these yet ?
Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that they have the mini version, how long is the length of pull on that ?
Hey mate I’m curious what you paid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ground Control
You won't be disappointed I have one of Ken's stocks on my Howa mini and I'm 6- 5 with long arms and it's fine for meQuote:
Originally Posted by Ground Control
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This Stock is being sent to Australia to go on my Australian rifle so I don’t have to pay GST on it , but shipping is a complete killer .Quote:
Originally Posted by Delphus
I paid $1015 NZ to get it delivered to my door in QLD .
$150 of that is postage.
I already have a Hi-Tec stock on my NZ rifle which is a Tikka and I love it .
This thread alerted me to the fact that they are now making a model to fit the 1500 SA which is what I own so I’m super happy and can’t wait for it to arrive .
Did you bed the action into the Stock ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08IMP
I didn't as i brought it already fitted to the rifle.
But it has been bedded.
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What they have on face book looks really good. That dosent “look” like a short length of pull at all
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No they aren't short LOP
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Received the Stock on Friday, put the old CMC Mountaineer/Howa 1500 .223 barreled action into it .
Shot it / sighted it in on Saturday and it shot it’s usual inch groups at 100m with factory Fiocchi 60gn ammo ( I purchased this recently , it’s done a lot work and it’s barrel is far from pristine ) .
It will need bedding to maximise its true potential, but I’m holding off doing that because I think I’ll buy a new Stainless Howa .223 and put the stock on that , so I’ll get it bedded when that happens.
I’m very happy with the Stock and it’s transformed the rifle, the weight saving is very noticeable and appreciated.
All I’d change is to lengthen the stock by a 1/2 inch and it’s dialed.
One other thing to note , the front of the comb has a small slot in it to allow the bolt to come back far enough to be removed this is because the comb is higher than a standard stock .
I had to file that slot a fraction deeper because the bolt wasn’t clearing it , maybe when you bed these stocks the action would be raised slightly, but it is something to be aware of .Attachment 198048
