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What are the rules around home made firearms these days? I was led to believe it was legal before but isn't anymore with the new law changes and you need a manufacturer endorsement. Is that true?
I obviously mean guns that meet all A-Cat legal requirements. Looking at these Henry single shot guns Gun City are trying to hock for a grand I definitely feel I could churn one out on a lathe for a lot less.
are they selling tho?
$500 gets you a 5 shot stainless synthetic eternal pump action
or a single shot 410 eternal for $199
what other cool shit can you make that hasnt been delegated out to turkey or other low wage areas?
Watch Royal Nonesuch's YT channel for ideas.
As for legalities? I wouldn't take any legal advice from an internet forum.
Just saying.
Yeah that guy has some great designs.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
And yeah I emailed my AO.
A bit more involved than just buying a lathe...
You need a lathe that has a large enough spindle bore to take a barrel.
Then you need a shitload of general machining tooling and measuring equipment (easily double or triple the amount you spent on your lathe).
Not add a mill and yet another round of tooling.
Then you need some fairly specific tooling for gunsmithing : chamber reamers etc
Unless you plan on using purchased barrels, or making smoothbore stuff only, rifling a barrel is a whole other pandora's box.
which brings up the next point.......at what stage is a lump of metal ACTUALLY a firearm????
eg multiple barrels and only one action....is a barrel on ITS OWN a firearm????
is a bolt a firearm WITHOUT a rifle to put it in? so is a rifle without a bolt a firearm???
Knew a guy who made his own 22 RF revolver many years back.
He was a wood carver by trade but did a lot of metal work, including having at least 3 of his own electric forges for doing metal casting.
PS he's been dead for a fair while now. Grader blade on an over width load.
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So a bit more techno than a drain pipe, some nails and a couple of rubber bands then. That counts me out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
You could make a pretty decent redneck single shot shotty with those ingredients, if you were so inclined...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Not that I would ever do such a thing of course :P
You can button rifle easily enough with a hydraulic press or any other similar equipment. Ain't hard to find a button too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Scale it up and we have a cannon.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
My dad was a police forensic photographer and fingerprint expert in South Africa for 21 years. The Ingenuity of criminals with a piece of galvanized steel stand pipe, some inner tube and a nail knows no bounds. 12 gauge cartridges fit quite snugly too. You may not be able to do a round of clays with it, but it would be the business for something that calls for 1 shot....
Actually, you can etch rifling into a tube with not much more than a 12v power supply, some copper wire and a tub of vinegar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
There maybe a Gatling or two in the country - straightforward enough to make - but another matter to fire reliably - I am told.....
Collegiality of making your own? - Frankly who would ever know - and when does a lump of metal become a gun?
And - yes - Many Cannon have been made over the years......
So yeah if anyone's curios it's legal as long as I don't try and sell it and it has to have a serial number inscribed on it for the future register. Also apparently it can't at any time be in a fireable state when it isn't entirely A-Cat legal, so like it can't be functional if it isn't of legal length yet and all that.
Which doesn't make all that much sense because a gun is in a functional state even with it's barrel taken off but who am I to question my AO overlord.
And the usual "can't be converted into an MSSA" yada yada.
Sorry, but that is complete bullshit. Your AO is giving you info based on the Police's wish list, not what is actually law. No surprises there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWuce
If (and when) the 2nd tranche passed, the cops are going to have to come up with solutions for many, many firearms out there that simply do not have serial numbers.
May I introduce you to one of, if not, the greatest thread on this forum:
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....y-lathe-14992/
Then look at his other started threads for all sorts of other great stuff.
If I took the barrels off my rifles, I’m not sure they’d be able to fire a round, let alone hold a cartridge against the boltface/firing pin?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWuce
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I made a slam fire 12 gauge out of galve threaded plumbing pipe, cap, stainless pipe and a coin and nailQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
the old man caught wind of it and made it disappear in an instant before i had the chance to see id actually made a shotgun or hand grenade
probably for the best that 13 year olds dont make their own firearms