Thread: Hornady Sub-x

Fair comments. As I've mentioned before, it's just for short range goat hunting, so should be up to the task.

Originally Posted by Bill999

they work fine on pigs
just treat it like a subsonic 22 and you will be thrilled with the performance

You are right at subsonic velocity all bullets have much the same trajectory no matter how high their BC so pick a bullet that has the best shape to deliver
the energy to the target, Longer range than 100-150 metres the energy is way down and may only wound the animal.

Some of the Lehigh machined expanders or similar like the discrete ballistics 188 selious rounds increase the lethality a bit, but really I hate tracking animals so want instant humane shots that anchor the pigs(brain or CNS) Sub-x is great and convenient but no more effective than Roberts 151gr, Iv chest shot a large angry running pig in which I suspect I got a hilar area hit as it crumpled mid step and was completely immobilised, far more effective than I thought cast lead projectiles could be at such a low impact speed.
I try sticking to if you were to stab it where you are aiming with a knitting needle would it instantly die.
With bullets expanding and causing a larger wound channel it gives you a little lee way for the wobbles and the animal moving.
I feel terrible when things run off injured and that's very possible using subs and shooting things in the normal effective spots, used carefully Tho it's amazing what they can do

I'm not sure what subsonic jacketed bullets bring to the party that a cast lead bullet doesn't, except cost.
I guess some folks don't like greasy bullets but I believe they can be powder coated.

@Shearer what twist rate is the rifle?

these projectiles are roberts 151 grain and a 150 flat nose 3030 . Both subs out of a 308. Cast bullet was stuck under skin of a hind on a lung shot and the other was stopped against the skin on a neck shot . Both were on hinds. I have used the winchester factory subs in 308 and found the projectile very fragile and wont use them any more.151 lead subs were the best. Most go right through. Have just loaded some 190 hornady sub projectiles and the most accurate load was 12,5 grains trailboss. 3 shots touching at 50 metres out of a begara takedown. Dropped 100 mm at 100 metres. Not subsonic but not too noisy, i went for the most accurate load. At sub velocities it shot abouut 35mm groups.

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

@Shearer what twist rate is the rifle?

Standard T3 308. 1:11 from memory. 16".