Thread: How much does a 270Win suck in 2019?

Not sure why anyone would bag the only true 7mm in the first place!, for nearly 100 years it has been killing game all over the planet, and has always been in the top five selling cartridges and die sales, so something must be alright with it. Some people just have to keep buying the new wheels they invent......... Like the new fangled 6.5 Creampuff, I mean, why would you?

I shoot a .270 for my hunting rifle and although it may be outclassed by some WSMs or magnums, maybe even the infamous creed... The recent pickings of high BC quality hunting bullets (ELDX & Gamechanger) brings it back in as a reasonable contender for a great do-it-all NZ hunting cartridge. Factory ammo however, is a limitation!

You miss place more shots due to wind than elevation. Elevation is vastly more predictable. Elevation does not vary with conditions. If you care at all about a rifles performance then you would worry about a desirable shot on a windy day, as this is highly likely. You would then care more about how slippery a projectile was, than how fast it was traveling. 6.3mm to 6.5mm to 6.8mm is not going to make any great difference to a wound with the same bullet, but only 6.5 has a good selection of slippery game bullets.

Why is that? 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm all have a good range of slippery bullets that kill well. In between, 6.3 and 6.8 have bullets that kill well that are shaped like bricks.

In other words, most of its reputation is complete bullshit, but it goes bang and things fall over, just like everything else. I feel for the amount of bang and kick, the pill that arrives at the 400m mark is nothing to write home about.

Originally Posted by Apollo

You miss place more shots due to wind than elevation. Elevation is vastly more predictable. Elevation does not vary with conditions. If you care at all about a rifles performance then you would worry about a desirable shot on a windy day, as this is highly likely. You would then care more about how slippery a projectile was, than how fast it was traveling. 6.3mm to 6.5mm to 6.8mm is not going to make any great difference to a wound with the same bullet, but only 6.5 has a good selection of slippery game bullets.

Why is that? 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm all have a good range of slippery bullets that kill well. In between, 6.3 and 6.8 have bullets that kill well that are shaped like bricks.

In other words, most of its reputation is complete bullshit, but it goes bang and things fall over, just like everything else. I feel for the amount of bang and kick, the pill that arrives at the 400m mark is nothing to write home about.

You read too much on the internet.......... get some real world experience.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

You read too much on the internet.......... get some real world experience.

You realize all things being equal, there is little or no practical difference between any of the rounds discussed here under 400m? I was joining in the discussion for amusement. If you want to make yourself look cool by being a pragmatist just point out the whole discussion is nonsense to everyone. Why single me out?

Originally Posted by Apollo

You miss place more shots due to wind than elevation. Elevation is vastly more predictable. Elevation does not vary with conditions. If you care at all about a rifles performance then you would worry about a desirable shot on a windy day, as this is highly likely. You would then care more about how slippery a projectile was, than how fast it was traveling. 6.3mm to 6.5mm to 6.8mm is not going to make any great difference to a wound with the same bullet, but only 6.5 has a good selection of slippery game bullets.

Why is that? 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm all have a good range of slippery bullets that kill well. In between, 6.3 and 6.8 have bullets that kill well that are shaped like bricks.

In other words, most of its reputation is complete bullshit, but it goes bang and things fall over, just like everything else. I feel for the amount of bang and kick, the pill that arrives at the 400m mark is nothing to write home about.

Elevation is certainly affected by atmospherics.
Even if you have them perfect, shooting over broken ground can cause all sorts of issues with wind regarding elevation.

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Originally Posted by Apollo

You miss place more shots due to wind than elevation. Elevation is vastly more predictable. Elevation does not vary with conditions. If you care at all about a rifles performance then you would worry about a desirable shot on a windy day, as this is highly likely. You would then care more about how slippery a projectile was, than how fast it was traveling. 6.3mm to 6.5mm to 6.8mm is not going to make any great difference to a wound with the same bullet, but only 6.5 has a good selection of slippery game bullets.

Why is that? 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm all have a good range of slippery bullets that kill well. In between, 6.3 and 6.8 have bullets that kill well that are shaped like bricks.

In other words, most of its reputation is complete bullshit, but it goes bang and things fall over, just like everything else. I feel for the amount of bang and kick, the pill that arrives at the 400m mark is nothing to write home about.

Remove the tinfoil hat, get off the internet. I dont understand how you think projectiles that are in the .4 and .5 bc range are considered as bricks.

Originally Posted by mawzer308

Remove the tinfoil hat, get off the internet. I dont understand how you think projectiles that are in the .4 and .5 bc range are considered as bricks.

Lol. Why do you guys discuss ballistics at all?

A lot of people see to forget wind is 3 dimensional. It not only blows left to right but up and down and towards and away from you. All have an effect.

Fuck, I'm glad that it's ok to go hunting most days, can load some ammo, shoot and no worry as long as I do my part and the animal falls over. Plus it could be with one of my 270's with Barnes 110 or129gr

110 gr barnes or even 110 gr sierra prohunter if you can,t afford barnes are real flat shooters that deck animals with little recoil as tetawa said do your bit and you can,t go wrong

Originally Posted by 57jl

110 gr barnes or even 110 gr sierra prohunter if you can,t afford barnes are real flat shooters that deck animals with little recoil as tetawa said do your bit and you can,t go wrong

I use the 110gr Barnes with 2209 out of an 18" BAR Browning, muzzle blast isn't bad even without the suppressor, but usually only 0ne or two shots fired as used solely for hunting deer.

Just bought a box of 145g Hornday ELD-X changing from 140g Noslers ABs price was the main reason to change, but a few comments about the ABs recently about them got me thinking.. Plenty of options in the legendary calibre.

I just hope the 10.5 twist stabilizes the new pill and can still mag load out touching the lands.

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don't do it man, if you do put a can on it

Originally Posted by muka88

don't do it man, if you do put a can on it

Hell no, waste of a good .270 when people shorten the barrel and put 'suppressors' on them. A .270 deserves a proper 24 inch barrel. 22 inches will do but not less that's for sure.

This fad for unnecessary gadgets like suppressors is ruining a lot of good rifles.