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    The current Sytong model is the HT70. It is an excellent thing. Reliable and works in every aspect.

    The DNT Zulus (formally Arken) has marginally better daytime optics than the HT70 but in my experience has a less reliable range finder (sometimes doesn't range) and some of them (mine included) cut out under recoil on centre fires. Ken at Sytong remedied that for me with very good service.

    The Zulus and Sytong have all of the same functions including auto ballistics linked to the range finder.

    The HT70 is a few hundred bucks cheaper than the Zulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    The current Sytong model is the HT70. It is an excellent thing. Reliable and works in every aspect.

    The DNT Zulus (formally Arken) has marginally better daytime optics than the HT70 but in my experience has a less reliable range finder (sometimes doesn't range) and some of them (mine included) cut out under recoil on centre fires. Ken at Sytong remedied that for me with very good service.

    The Zulus and Sytong have all of the same functions including auto ballistics linked to the range finder.

    The HT70 is a few hundred bucks cheaper than the Zulus.
    I know nothing about these products, so this might be a dumb question and I might have the wrong idea here, but Ill ask anyway. I thought night vision required an infra red torch? If so is the rangefinder aspect very critical? Id have thought that most game inside most torch beam length would be within 200 odd meters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whanahuia View Post
    I know nothing about these products, so this might be a dumb question and I might have the wrong idea here, but Ill ask anyway. I thought night vision required an infra red torch? If so is the rangefinder aspect very critical? Id have thought that most game inside most torch beam length would be within 200 odd meters?
    @whanahuia These are day/night scopes so the ballistics/range finder is fantastic for day shooting.

    Here's a couple of vids of mine using the ballistics in the day time (the red cross is the adjusted aiming point - comes up when you ping the range finder):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC7z8Ad1jxg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nqpnk5V11g

    Also, they have exceptional on-board IR torches and of course it is very hard to estimate range at night. 300 yds is no problem and on a good night I could have (but haven't) shot deer out to 550 yards.
    And the range finder ballistics compensate for slope which is a great feature.

    And here we go - shot this at night at 315 yards (deer). I ranged her but didn't ping the ballistic range, just held on top of her shoulder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMyI-PdJ1E
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    @whanahuia These are day/night scopes so the ballistics/range finder is fantastic for day shooting.

    Here's a couple of vids of mine using the ballistics in the day time (the red cross is the adjusted aiming point - comes up when you ping the range finder):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC7z8Ad1jxg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nqpnk5V11g

    Also, they have exceptional on-board IR torches and of course it is very hard to estimate range at night. 300 yds is no problem and on a good night I could have (but haven't) shot deer out to 550 yards.
    And the range finder ballistics compensate for slope which is a great feature.

    And here we go - shot this at night at 315 yards (deer). I ranged her but didn't ping the ballistic range, just held on top of her shoulder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMyI-PdJ1E
    Yep, Ok just learnt something new. way more effective than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whanahuia View Post
    I know nothing about these products, so this might be a dumb question and I might have the wrong idea here, but Ill ask anyway. I thought night vision required an infra red torch? If so is the rangefinder aspect very critical? Id have thought that most game inside most torch beam length would be within 200 odd meters?
    With a decent IR torch you can see and shoot out to 400 to 500 metres, a range finder is very important at night because it is harder to judge distance than in daylight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    The current Sytong model is the HT70. It is an excellent thing. Reliable and works in every aspect.

    The DNT Zulus (formally Arken) has marginally better daytime optics than the HT70 but in my experience has a less reliable range finder (sometimes doesn't range) and some of them (mine included) cut out under recoil on centre fires. Ken at Sytong remedied that for me with very good service.

    The Zulus and Sytong have all of the same functions including auto ballistics linked to the range finder.

    The HT70 is a few hundred bucks cheaper than the Zulus.
    Cheers for all the info you put out mate.
    99% talked myself into picking up an HT70 at the Sika show this weekend. Can you save multiple Ballistics profiles in the Sytong, and if so does it also save the zero for each profile? Ideally wanting to swap it back and forth between the 22 and 308.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P View Post
    Cheers for all the info you put out mate.
    99% talked myself into picking up an HT70 at the Sika show this weekend. Can you save multiple Ballistics profiles in the Sytong, and if so does it also save the zero for each profile? Ideally wanting to swap it back and forth between the 22 and 308.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyanimal31 View Post
    You better go and see fraser at pard as well.
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    Will do mate. Was just looking at the nightstalker online, looks like a nice bit of kit also
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P View Post
    Will do mate. Was just looking at the nightstalker online, looks like a nice bit of kit also
    I have one and love it.
    Combined with the thermal handheld in is a game changer at night and daytime with the 4k sensor with the range finder and ballistics it is a very handy bit of kit.
    I'm using mine more and more.

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