Im about to get the chop and am unsure how far to go, as i cant go back.
The vortex podcast had one at 16"? And held accuracy and velocity well.
What's the consensus of the people?
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Im about to get the chop and am unsure how far to go, as i cant go back.
The vortex podcast had one at 16"? And held accuracy and velocity well.
What's the consensus of the people?
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I've done 16 and 18 with a 308, both suppressed
18 is more pleasant to shoot.
I have a 16in, it shoots well but is a bit "barky" it doesn't suppress as well as my 20in.
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@Rn-85 - pop this into a Google search:
site:www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz ideal 308 barrel length
There will be loads of reading there that should give you some ideas
For close bush chop it all, for longer ranges leave it alone
What is 18 like at medium range?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
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18 inch barel was good on deer to 600 - 650 yards with factory 168eldm ammoQuote:
Originally Posted by Rn-85
Edit: in the right weather conditions and practiced at those ranges
Yeah I dont want to shoot out beyond 650y. I want it to be short enough to climb scrubby hills and long enough to be nice to shoot.
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18 then I have 16 inch one and its quite "barky" even suppressed with a couple extra bafflesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rn-85
650m is a long way out, I'd be going 20".
An over barrel suppressor will keep the overall length to 24" which is fine.
16" is over kill unless you are hunting thick thick bush.
Yeah, 650y is just a random figure to be safe. I doubt i get out to 400m
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There is no need for anything longer than 20" for a 308. 16" only for a dedicated, or at least mostly, bush rifle. Between 18 and 20 is probably the sweet spot. Mine is 19" used as an alrounder. I hunt mostly in the Bush and never found it too long with a Hardy surpressor on.
Not random. Just what I have shot deer out to with the 168 and 308 with a 18 inch barel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rn-85
Very specific really
20in suppressed nice for 400yds,I cant see much further.16" got too much bark.
I have settled on 17” with a Dpt magnum over barrel. Quite enough and still relatively handy in the thickest of the kaimais.
So im currently running 22" unsuppressed. Go down to 18 with a dpt mk2 should be about the same length and be usable
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At 16” the 308 starts getting a bit loud even with suppressor, also apparently spectacular muzzle flash according to bystanders at range although I didn’t really notice it. Different at night but. Bergara BA13, 16.5” barrel?, DPT can with extra stainless baffle.
I guess 2 inches makes all the difference.
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I have a 16 " BA13 Bergara with DPT over barrel suppressor with stainless baffel and brake, the brake made it very pleasant to shoot.
Have rung steel to 400 meters with ease so far but it is a bush rifle really for my purpose.
I have 16.5" Bergara and 22" H&R. I've found the velocity drops off massively in short barrel with lightweight projectiles (125gn), but not too bad in the heavier ones. 168gr Amax at 2650 fps in 22" barrel, 2500 fps in 16.5" barrel, but the 125gr is 2900 fps in 22" barrel, 2550 fps in 16.5" barrel.
I'm sure could recover some of that "lost" velocity with a faster burning powder, but don't really want too many different loads.
Short barrel sure as hell barks loud with no suppressor. Why not try 18" then cut later if you really feel the need? Easier to take more off than add some back on...
Out of interest, on the different .308s are the twist rates the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by bjp
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Best cut a inch off every 100rds of hunting,discover what you like.You cant add on.
For Canterbury hunting 18 - 20 seems like the sweet spot for velocity and portability. A couple of friends have 16s and wish they didn't go that short now. Mines 20, hasn't been a problem but it's a heavy old thing!
Nope, H&R 22" is 1:12 (bought in the 90's), Bergara is 1:8 twist. One of the reason I bought it was to try heavy subsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rn-85
I don't think your pup would like that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Factory 16" X-bolt with a DPT. I find it neither barky or recoily. Swaro Z6i 1-6 on top, brilliant bush rifle, I've taken animals at 350y with it.
That's what she saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Rn-85
Depends purely on the use
If it’s a bush gun takeing shots no further than 100m just cut it till the suppressor is 1mm from the stock you can also cut the stock and go even shorter just remember it must be 762mm oal excluding the suppressor
If it’s a bush gun but you still want to be able to shoot to 300m across a clearing or whatever
You probably don’t really want to be under 16- 18
If it’s a 1000m target rifle ( I know it’s not) but 30+
It all comes down to the intended use
Some one must know this? For every inch you cut of a tikka 308 barrel how many grams do you save?
It should be a jail-able/prison offence to cut the Barrel of a .308!!
A 270,,,,30.06…..300….243….223….even a .22…fine!!
But a .308…..never!!
18inch is fine.
I ran a 18inch 7mm08 with the 162gr eld-m @2530fps, knocked over more than a few goats and fallow from 10meters out to 602meters, 308 won't be any different with the right projectile
Think you're a bit backwards on that one mateQuote:
Originally Posted by A330driver
22 inches. I like performance.
Going to be slim pickings for second hand rifles in the future with all these neutered barrels. (I know someone who shortened a .30-30 to 14 inches which he thought was very handy. Before he chronographed it.)
Never mind the weight saving, getting hooked up in regenerating manuka and beech thickets is an absolute prick of a time with a standard length barrel. 18" is the sweet spot for me, longest I can tolerate for getting snagged on everything and shortest I'm willing to go before it gets offensively loud.
That's what the actress said to the bishopQuote:
Originally Posted by Rn-85
I hear these sorts of comments all the time. So what? if it's that thick every animal within 200m has heard you coming. For me this is just a BS fantasy that anyone can sneak through heavy rubbish that thick without animals hearing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jt89
I don't see how 2 inches can make a blind bit of difference to how quiet it's possible to move though heavy cover.
My vote is leave it at 20 inches.
Oh you whipper snappers haven't lived until you've tried bush stalking with a full length SMLE with its sticky out front sight....then you know what hooked up is...in saying that I used to pighunt with shotgun with 30" barrel without it being an issue. I miss my really short 7.62x39 for bush stalking but mainly because it was so light... As I have got older (&fatter) I have slowed down a shite load when bush stalking...if vegetation is terrible for me to get through a deer probably goes in different pathway...if tossing up between 16-18" logic would suggest 17"
For a .30 cal T3 lite starting off at 22", you'll lose around 30g / inch increasing slightly to about 35g / inch by the time you reach 16". (For a .22 cal it will be around 40g / inch)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
Chopping the barrel from 20" to 16" will lose about 135g.